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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 22:14
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Cool DODARRR

Originally Posted by Pinuz89 View Post
Anyway the departing aerodrome was the nearest, so no need for a diversion to others.

And at least a briefing to your colleague is always a good idea, in order to make a decision agreed together.
Originally Posted by Antonio Montana View Post
I think its best if I clarify for you, if you are going to an airport other than destination, it is a diversion. Yes you need to discuss this option with the other pilot, but it does not need a DODAR, just a simple process, for example ' We have just left Liverpool, it is Cavok, its close, we can hold etc'

If it helps, I would have dealt with it this way.
We have a passenger with a suspected heart attack, we are near our departure aerodrome, I suggest we divert there, (taking into account the weather), see if your partner agrees, if not why not.
Tell ATC and Hold at present position, or a nearby fix.
Give control to your Sim Partner.
Set up FMC, Nav Aids etc for expected approach, get fresh weather.
Brief
Inform the Cabin crew and passengers
Checklists
Approach and land.

If in doubt keep it simple, it does tend to work.
A little old, but I though your reply was funny, so I have to comment

You say this situation doesn't need DODAR, but than you immediately contradict yourself by actually doing a DODAR!

D = DIAGNOSE = "We have a passenger with a suspected heart attack,..."
O = OPTIONS = "We have just left Liverpool, its close..." / "We are near our departure aerodrome,... so"
D = DECIDE = "I suggest we divert there, (taking into account the weather),..."
A = ASSIGN TASKS = "Tell ATC and Hold at present position, or a nearby fix,...; Set up FMC, Nav Aids etc for expected approach, get fresh weather...; Brief...; Inform the Cabin crew and passengers..."

Congratz, you just did a DODAR...

Originally Posted by Antonio Montana View Post
"...it does not really require a NITS Briefing either..."
Originally Posted by Antonio Montana View Post
I would inform ATC, the Senior and of course a PA for the passengers,...
Well, that's the point of a NITS brief.. to inform the Senior..

So in reality you would do both DODAR & NITS.. which you should..

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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 06:35
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Voyotv, you have quoted me out of context, it seems you don't understand the point I was trying to get across.

DODAR is an aid to help with decision making during an abnormal situation or emergency.
Each of the acronym stands for something that allows Pilots to come back to a situation to re-analyse their course of actions and the next required tasks.
If you have time, you can do one as a team, it is not designed to be used in a throwaway way, just to impress the Sim instructor, something I see all too often by cadets .

Well, that's the point of a NITS brief.. to inform the Senior..
A NITS brief is to inform the Cabin Crew, via the Senior, of a situation they may need to prepare the cabin and passengers for, if you are returning a perfectly serviceable aircraft due to a problem with a passenger, it does not need a NITS. Again something I find overused in the SIM, by inexperienced crews.

If you are going to do them, then do them properly, which means working as a team.

As I said Keep It Simple, it does work. I know from experience, more than once.
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 10:06
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Originally Posted by Antonio Montana View Post
Voyotv, you have quoted me out of context, it seems you don't understand the point I was trying to get across.

DODAR is an aid to help with decision making during an abnormal situation or emergency.
Each of the acronym stands for something that allows Pilots to come back to a situation to re-analyse their course of actions and the next required tasks.
If you have time, you can do one as a team, it is not designed to be used in a throwaway way, just to impress the Sim instructor, something I see all too often by cadets .


A NITS brief is to inform the Cabin Crew, via the Senior, of a situation they may need to prepare the cabin and passengers for, if you are returning a perfectly serviceable aircraft due to a problem with a passenger, it does not need a NITS. Again something I find overused in the SIM, by inexperienced crews.

If you are going to do them, then do them properly, which means working as a team.

As I said Keep It Simple, it does work. I know from experience, more than once.
The point is..

You are giving bad advice to people reading this thread and trying to pass the assessment. You need to FULLY brief DODAR and NITS, that is the whole point of the assessment. They assess your CRM, cooperation, briefs and performance under stress. And by not fully briefing “by the book”, you WILL FAIL.

People are not interested in how would you personally deal with this in a real world situation. In order to get there you first need to pass the assessment.

You probably also don’t drive your car the way you did on your check ride with your examiner, do you..?
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 11:30
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Voyotov, it has never been my intention to lead anyone in the wrong direction.

I cannot comment on Ryanair as I have not performed any sim assessments for them, you obviously have lots more experience than I do with Ryanair.
The companies I do assessments for with cadets, have a different criteria, this is not a comment against Ryanair, they have some of the best training in the business, its their toy set they make the rules.

If they want a DODAR and a NITS brief, then use a structured brief, the whole point is it will aid you.

I have written a very detailed synopsis of a DODAR and NITS, on page 441 post number 8806.

I suggest as someone who does this for a living, that you and others study the structure and learn from it.
You want to be a professional then be one, it is process driven, there is no need to rush it.
The Examiner is not there to catch you out, nor are they looking for perfection, be professional, clam and relaxed and you will be fine.
Good luck with your endeavours.
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 11:45
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Originally Posted by A320LGW View Post
Got it, thanks!
Don't mention your PPRuNe login name. It wouldn't go down too well. ... or change it to B738GDN
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 22:35
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Has Anyone done DEC non rated assessment recently? I was wondering if I will be asked tech questions on my current type, or on the B737?

PM me if you like .

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Old 25th Apr 2019, 10:06
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Originally Posted by The Crew View Post
Has Anyone done DEC non rated assessment recently? I was wondering if I will be asked tech questions on my current type, or on the B737?

PM me if you like .
From what I've seen for all candidates you will definitely be asked on current type (or class in the case of cadets), and what appears to be a test on your level of knowledge of the 737. This is all at the oral interview, confirmed by a few mates, experienced in commercial/corporate but NTR on 737.
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 16:11
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Anyone here starting Type on the 8th of July(intro week) in EMA FR1907?
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Old 27th Apr 2019, 18:58
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Originally Posted by Fede84 View Post
Hi, I will be on assessment the 24th.
Hi, I have also been on an assessment on 24th April at Ryanair. Have you been successfull?

David
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 17:19
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Just out of interest, do they still offer “self-employed” contract (Storm/McGinley) to cadets, or it’s RYR employment only now?
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 06:11
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Ryanair interivew

@ The Crew, latestpilotjobs has a interview preparation for ryanair, but it is more towards cadets for their online assessment and they call it Irish Low Cost Carrier preparation (don't ask me why they change the name). Below are few questions asked from my interview as non rated DEC (very easy interview)

The assessment lasted the entire day and we where around 6 pilots (experienced pilots).

Then they started to give us a brief about the simulator assessment and they run it as a loft. I flew for 90 minutes and used current companies sop’s and work as a team (CRM).

After that it was briefing about the company (base/workpattern and salary)
Then we had an hour HR questions with a TRE and mainly asked about my history and where I prefer to be based at. Then he asked 3 questions
  • memory item on current airplane
  • one question about low approach go around procedure
  • some icing question which i don’t remember
Don’t stress it is easy interview

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Old 29th Apr 2019, 16:42
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Originally Posted by Turkpilot1 View Post
@ The Crew, latestpilotjobs has a interview preparation for ryanair, but it is more towards cadets for their online assessment and they call it Irish Low Cost Carrier preparation (don't ask me why they change the name). Below are few questions asked from my interview as non rated DEC (very easy interview)

The assessment lasted the entire day and we where around 6 pilots (experienced pilots).

Then they started to give us a brief about the simulator assessment and they run it as a loft. I flew for 90 minutes and used current companies sop’s and work as a team (CRM).

After that it was briefing about the company (base/workpattern and salary)
Then we had an hour HR questions with a TRE and mainly asked about my history and where I prefer to be based at. Then he asked 3 questions
  • memory item on current airplane
  • one question about low approach go around procedure
  • some icing question which i don’t remember
Don’t stress it is easy interview
Hi Turkpilot, was the loft the same scenario as has been talked about here for the last 100 pages, or something different
for experienced guys? 90 mins of flight, that was presumably a total as PF and PM ?

By the way , did you get your 1st base choice, assuming you took the job?





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Old 30th Apr 2019, 21:08
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Hi! How long does it usually take to get invitation for the online assessment after the "application under review" email?
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 21:58
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Originally Posted by magic91 View Post
Hi! How long does it usually take to get invitation for the online assessment after the "application under review" email?
It varies, it take 2 hours to 16 days from previous comment. Sometimes it can take longer.
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 22:50
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Originally Posted by magic91 View Post
Hi! How long does it usually take to get invitation for the online assessment after the "application under review" email?
Hi, I got an invitation for the online assessment one day after submitting my application to CAE.
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Old 1st May 2019, 11:29
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Originally Posted by ddaveid View Post
Hi, I got an invitation for the online assessment one day after submitting my application to CAE.

Did you apply recently?

A friend of mine and I have applied the day after Easter,got the "under review" email two days later but we didn't receive anything else since then
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Old 1st May 2019, 11:56
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Originally Posted by magic91 View Post
Did you apply recently?

A friend of mine and I have applied the day after Easter,got the "under review" email two days later but we didn't receive anything else since then
Yes, I applied recently. I submitted my application on 7th of April and on 8th of April I was invited for online assessment. On 12th of April I was invited for assessment in Dublin on 24th of April.
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Old 2nd May 2019, 09:05
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Anyone here who has an introduction course in East Midlands from 15th of July and type rating course from 14th of August and would like to share accommodation?
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Old 2nd May 2019, 11:33
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Originally Posted by ddaveid View Post
Yes, I applied recently. I submitted my application on 7th of April and on 8th of April I was invited for online assessment. On 12th of April I was invited for assessment in Dublin on 24th of April.

Thanks and congrats!
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Old 2nd May 2019, 15:57
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Hi guys,

In a couple of days I have my assessment for RYR in London-Stansted.

FYI: I'm First Officer double rated both on A320 and B737 (with more experience on Boeing). I flew the A320 last but 737 rating is still active.

Was anybody of you also in Stansted for assessment in the last time?
What to expect there (especially with my background) - any differences to the already mentioned things from Dublin e.g.?

And another thing:
Since I fly in airline I changed to digital flight logbook (MCCpilotlog). How shall I handle it? Can I bring my iPad and show them all entries there or shall I print out all data and put it into a folder?

Thank you very much in advance for any help and/or suggestions!
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