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Well it looks like I should have gone to OAA or Jerez... As Ryr don't have much interest in the Irish schools. Plus the flight schools "after sales department" is pretty much non-existent along with the multiple connections to the airlines that were promised when I started to hand over the cash. I paid €70,000 to end up where I started... The back arse of Mayo! Aviation seems to be a monkeys game. Have to admit I feel like a bit of an ape.
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I was about to answer to G-NOFT that recently RYR invited 3guys from italy for an assesment and none of'em went to oaa! They did all their training in italy. I was about to say that we probably have a problem of age, becouse G-NOFT and I are 28 and I see RYR is calling people who are within 21-24..at least lately. But than I saw ICARUS1981 post which is leading myself in hoping again, so like you guys I also wander: how the 
are they inviting people for the assesment? I applied 3months ago thorough both oaa and cae and still no news! ICARUS may I ask you please where have you done your training and Who invited you for the assesment? Was it cae or oaa? By the way good luck!!
are they inviting people for the assesment? I applied 3months ago thorough both oaa and cae and still no news! ICARUS may I ask you please where have you done your training and Who invited you for the assesment? Was it cae or oaa? By the way good luck!!
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hi guys
could you help me out here?planning to take my mcc soon, but not sure what to do. I can take it with oaa in Stockholm, using Ryanairs OPC and so on. This course is EXPENSIVE. Or I can do it another place for allmost half the price.
So my Q is:
Does it have anything to say where I take my mcc, or do they (RYR) give a s***....?
could you help me out here?planning to take my mcc soon, but not sure what to do. I can take it with oaa in Stockholm, using Ryanairs OPC and so on. This course is EXPENSIVE. Or I can do it another place for allmost half the price.
So my Q is:
Does it have anything to say where I take my mcc, or do they (RYR) give a s***....?
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With Ryanair, it's pretty simple.
They don't give a damn whether you're Irish, French, Spanish or anything else. Integrated/Modular makes no difference either.
You meet their requirements, you have little or no previous airline experience, you're less than 30 years old, preferably young with 200h, have the right to work in Europe and have €27500 in the bank, then you might get invited to the interview (which you have to pay for).
Which part of this don't you understand?
One poster above said they're not hiring Irish people because he wasn't invited himself.
Well ... they do recruit a lot, they do want your money, but believe it or not there are more than 400 new jobless pilots every year.
If you are 32 years old, although there have been people older than that joining the company in the past, there are very little chances to even get close to an interview with them.
Their training facilities (East Midlands and CAE in Amsterdam) are running at almost full capacity at the moment. Back in July, there were rumours recruitments would stop and there wouldn't be any new type rating course after October. Rumours are rumours, trust them if that makes you feel better.
Reality is simple. People from all over Europe (and this does include Ireland) are joining Ryanair. I've come across more than 5 new Irish guys in the past 2 months.
Before you join, have a deep look into the terms and conditions.
Everything is not as bad as depicted on some parts of this forum, but some other aspects are not quite enjoyable and people don't really talk about this on here.
I personnaly like the fact they send you out-of-base quite a lot (and to be honest, most people actually hate this). The network is great, the planes are new and in good conditions, you do get to fly a lot (although this is very much base-dependant), you can jumpseat anywhere around the network (well, at least that's the reality of it), the pay is decent, etc...
Now, on duty pilots and cabin crew don't get to interact much unlike other airlines. Cabin crew stay in the cabin, pilots are locked behind a door. If you're lucky, you'll get to talk to them for 2 minutes on a 3 hour flight when they bring you hot water for your coffee (which you do not have to pay for! Incredible, isn't it?).
A lot of crew don't speak very good English and stick to their mother language when several people of the same nationaly fly together.
Most new joiners are nice and friendly but some pilots are not fun to seat next to on 4 sector days. Most cockpit conversations are focused on "leaving Ryanair", while we pretty much all agree it isn't that bad in the end.
Bases. Now this is where you tend to get really frustrated. You want Madrid and a friend of yours wants Stansted, you'll get Stansted and your friend will get Madrid. That's how it works. I have met people applying for a particular base over a three year period and never get it while a lot of new cadets would go straight to there.
Some bases are actually really crap. You can be on standby's 4 days in a row every other week in winter in some bases (remember, you get paid for the amount of hours you spend up in the air, not on the ground on standby). Some airports (Madrid for example) have you taxi for half an hour every morning. You're paid on scheduled block hours, and block hours don't plan for 1/2h taxi twice a day ... You're still limited to 900 hrs total but get paid for 700.
Well, there are a lot of things going on about Ryanair. Look for yourself, see if it would suit you and most importantly, try to see if you have any other options or job opportuny (and most people probably don't).
They don't give a damn whether you're Irish, French, Spanish or anything else. Integrated/Modular makes no difference either.
You meet their requirements, you have little or no previous airline experience, you're less than 30 years old, preferably young with 200h, have the right to work in Europe and have €27500 in the bank, then you might get invited to the interview (which you have to pay for).
Which part of this don't you understand?
One poster above said they're not hiring Irish people because he wasn't invited himself.
Well ... they do recruit a lot, they do want your money, but believe it or not there are more than 400 new jobless pilots every year.
If you are 32 years old, although there have been people older than that joining the company in the past, there are very little chances to even get close to an interview with them.
Their training facilities (East Midlands and CAE in Amsterdam) are running at almost full capacity at the moment. Back in July, there were rumours recruitments would stop and there wouldn't be any new type rating course after October. Rumours are rumours, trust them if that makes you feel better.
Reality is simple. People from all over Europe (and this does include Ireland) are joining Ryanair. I've come across more than 5 new Irish guys in the past 2 months.
Before you join, have a deep look into the terms and conditions.
Everything is not as bad as depicted on some parts of this forum, but some other aspects are not quite enjoyable and people don't really talk about this on here.
I personnaly like the fact they send you out-of-base quite a lot (and to be honest, most people actually hate this). The network is great, the planes are new and in good conditions, you do get to fly a lot (although this is very much base-dependant), you can jumpseat anywhere around the network (well, at least that's the reality of it), the pay is decent, etc...
Now, on duty pilots and cabin crew don't get to interact much unlike other airlines. Cabin crew stay in the cabin, pilots are locked behind a door. If you're lucky, you'll get to talk to them for 2 minutes on a 3 hour flight when they bring you hot water for your coffee (which you do not have to pay for! Incredible, isn't it?).
A lot of crew don't speak very good English and stick to their mother language when several people of the same nationaly fly together.
Most new joiners are nice and friendly but some pilots are not fun to seat next to on 4 sector days. Most cockpit conversations are focused on "leaving Ryanair", while we pretty much all agree it isn't that bad in the end.
Bases. Now this is where you tend to get really frustrated. You want Madrid and a friend of yours wants Stansted, you'll get Stansted and your friend will get Madrid. That's how it works. I have met people applying for a particular base over a three year period and never get it while a lot of new cadets would go straight to there.
Some bases are actually really crap. You can be on standby's 4 days in a row every other week in winter in some bases (remember, you get paid for the amount of hours you spend up in the air, not on the ground on standby). Some airports (Madrid for example) have you taxi for half an hour every morning. You're paid on scheduled block hours, and block hours don't plan for 1/2h taxi twice a day ... You're still limited to 900 hrs total but get paid for 700.
Well, there are a lot of things going on about Ryanair. Look for yourself, see if it would suit you and most importantly, try to see if you have any other options or job opportuny (and most people probably don't).
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VERY good post. Thank you.
I was 200h, first pass CPL/IR and ME, one theory re-sit but 33 years old so I got a "Good-bye, John" letter within a couple of months of having applied.
I was 200h, first pass CPL/IR and ME, one theory re-sit but 33 years old so I got a "Good-bye, John" letter within a couple of months of having applied.
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Hi Golfcharlie232, I hope you are well.
"Reality is simple. People from all over Europe (and this does include Ireland) are joining Ryanair. I've come across more than 5 new Irish guys in the past 2 months."
I think what a lot of people are trying to explain is that in the last 5-6 months Ryanair seems to have ceased inviting any Irish applicants to interviews regardless of age.Nobody is disputing the fact that there are Irish people conducting line-training at the moement or finishing it up but they would have had their interviews earlier on in the year, perhaps Jan through to June.
However if you say you have come across 5 new Irish guy's in the past few months, do you mind me asking at what stage would they be at? i.e just finished interviews,pre-type rating, line-training etc.
I most certainly do not treat Ryanair as the "be all and end all" as it is not, however I know of quite a few people (mainly low time Irish pilot's) who would be very interested in this.
Thanks for your time.
"Reality is simple. People from all over Europe (and this does include Ireland) are joining Ryanair. I've come across more than 5 new Irish guys in the past 2 months."
I think what a lot of people are trying to explain is that in the last 5-6 months Ryanair seems to have ceased inviting any Irish applicants to interviews regardless of age.Nobody is disputing the fact that there are Irish people conducting line-training at the moement or finishing it up but they would have had their interviews earlier on in the year, perhaps Jan through to June.
However if you say you have come across 5 new Irish guy's in the past few months, do you mind me asking at what stage would they be at? i.e just finished interviews,pre-type rating, line-training etc.
I most certainly do not treat Ryanair as the "be all and end all" as it is not, however I know of quite a few people (mainly low time Irish pilot's) who would be very interested in this.
Thanks for your time.
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Golfcharlie232 has fairly much got it in one there, very good post. I have heard this not hiring Irish people lark as well and there seems to be some truth to it. It all seems to down to the fact that the Irish crews(myself included) are annoying ops in STN as to why we have not got a base anywhere near home even though we are in the company- in my case anyway, 2 years now.
For galway pilot. Your attitude is all wrong for an airline and you would not last one day in RYR. I'm not trying to be a pr!ck but just some advice. The world of Irish aviation is very small and everyone knows everyone, especially in Ryanair. We already know you come from Mayo and that you most likely went to one of the 3 Irish schools. You were talking about a school in the south west and some crap about trading animals.Some of the instructors there are Ryanair CPT/FO, they will spot a bullsh!tter a mile away. You have to tone it down a bit, it would be very easy to find out who you are and believe me it's not what you know but who you know in here.
The best bit of advice I was given when I joined Ryanair was: "Keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed"
For galway pilot. Your attitude is all wrong for an airline and you would not last one day in RYR. I'm not trying to be a pr!ck but just some advice. The world of Irish aviation is very small and everyone knows everyone, especially in Ryanair. We already know you come from Mayo and that you most likely went to one of the 3 Irish schools. You were talking about a school in the south west and some crap about trading animals.Some of the instructors there are Ryanair CPT/FO, they will spot a bullsh!tter a mile away. You have to tone it down a bit, it would be very easy to find out who you are and believe me it's not what you know but who you know in here.
The best bit of advice I was given when I joined Ryanair was: "Keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed"
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To clarify a few things,
- First, I forgot to mention that most if not all people joining Ryanair had either first time passes or partials in their IR and CPL. I haven't come across anyone who failed any skill test before.
- Yes, the Irish guys did have the interview in the past 3~4 months or so. They're in Type Rating right now, not Line Training yet. There are a lot more French, Spanish and British than German for example, would that imply that Ryanair doesn't like German people? I would just tend to believe there are more job opportunities in Germany than France or Spain and hence a lot less people from Germany applying to Ryanair.
Less Irish than Spanish? Probably, but how smaller is Ireland compared to Spain?
"It all seems to down to the fact that the Irish crews(myself included) are annoying ops in STN as to why we have not got a base anywhere near home"
Ah well ... That's not the Irish crews, that's pretty much everyone.
Who is lucky enough to have a base near home? Ok I know a few who actually got their first choice but most didn't.
Last point, the fact that people within Ryanair complain so much about the conditions is down to the fact that little efforts from the management could change a lot (particularly the base-attribution). It's really not a bad airline (for pilots), but we feel like it could easily be much better.
- First, I forgot to mention that most if not all people joining Ryanair had either first time passes or partials in their IR and CPL. I haven't come across anyone who failed any skill test before.
- Yes, the Irish guys did have the interview in the past 3~4 months or so. They're in Type Rating right now, not Line Training yet. There are a lot more French, Spanish and British than German for example, would that imply that Ryanair doesn't like German people? I would just tend to believe there are more job opportunities in Germany than France or Spain and hence a lot less people from Germany applying to Ryanair.
Less Irish than Spanish? Probably, but how smaller is Ireland compared to Spain?
"It all seems to down to the fact that the Irish crews(myself included) are annoying ops in STN as to why we have not got a base anywhere near home"
Ah well ... That's not the Irish crews, that's pretty much everyone.
Who is lucky enough to have a base near home? Ok I know a few who actually got their first choice but most didn't. Last point, the fact that people within Ryanair complain so much about the conditions is down to the fact that little efforts from the management could change a lot (particularly the base-attribution). It's really not a bad airline (for pilots), but we feel like it could easily be much better.
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galwaypilot: Really don't think you should be blaming your school choice.. 12 months ago most of my Tr course trained in ireland, I even trained with a few before it! Actually there was one guy out of the 12 from Oaa. Maybe it's changed but in the last couple of weeks I've had 2 supernumerary cadets who trained with small schools 
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Hi c206, at the moment they don't really care too much on where you did your mcc.. I know few guys that did their mcc in a fixed King air SIM and got the call, as well as other gays that did it in Stockholm and are still waiting! It's up to you!
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Hey guys,
does anybody knows if is there any chance to be called again if you fail first assessment? Does anybody have that kind of experiences or is only and final shoot when you are called...
does anybody knows if is there any chance to be called again if you fail first assessment? Does anybody have that kind of experiences or is only and final shoot when you are called...
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@Galwaypilot
Firstly I don't know why you call yourself 'Galwaypilot' when your from Ballinrobe Co.Mayo. I think your child like rant is nothing but pathetic! To say your school has something to do with you not having a job? Hmmm, maybe you should look at your ability first!! As your two posts are not only insulting Irish schools, but your fellow Irish trained cadets and Irish aviation as a whole. Which in my opinion over aviation history, has played a massive role in it, especially in the aircraft leasing sector.
And it's that very attitude that has you moaning here, and the nearest you'll get to a jet is working in the McDonalds in Dublin Airport... So in that case I'll have a Big Mac. You can keep the change as I'd say you'll need it. Grow up... There is a reason Ryanair aren't recruiting the Irish, the standard of training in Ireland is definitely not one of them. Though when they see Irish guys with your attitude presenting themselves for an assessment, you'd start to wonder is that the reason. 😡 try 'clownpilot' as a user name....
And it's that very attitude that has you moaning here, and the nearest you'll get to a jet is working in the McDonalds in Dublin Airport... So in that case I'll have a Big Mac. You can keep the change as I'd say you'll need it. Grow up... There is a reason Ryanair aren't recruiting the Irish, the standard of training in Ireland is definitely not one of them. Though when they see Irish guys with your attitude presenting themselves for an assessment, you'd start to wonder is that the reason. 😡 try 'clownpilot' as a user name....
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I see illusions being shattered here not least with Galwaypilot. The fact of the matter that it's business as usual as far as airline recruitment is concerned. As in there are too few places for too many pilots. It was the same when I qualified, you might have to wait years before a job came up. Back then instead of sneering at the local flying schools. People found the money to get an Instructor's rating and bided their time.
People are luckier now than at other times. Ryanair recruits continously and if you fit their profile, Irish or not and you have the money. You have a chance.
Incidentally the age 30 rule is not hard and fast with Ryanair. I happen to know a few who were a lot older. But they had a connection to a certain flight school in Ireland. Indeed I would fancy my chances even though I am well and truly over thirty.
Galwaypilot evidently went to the 'wrong' Irish school. If you really want to get into Ryanair there is only one.
People are luckier now than at other times. Ryanair recruits continously and if you fit their profile, Irish or not and you have the money. You have a chance.
Incidentally the age 30 rule is not hard and fast with Ryanair. I happen to know a few who were a lot older. But they had a connection to a certain flight school in Ireland. Indeed I would fancy my chances even though I am well and truly over thirty.
Galwaypilot evidently went to the 'wrong' Irish school. If you really want to get into Ryanair there is only one.