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OK, that answers my question. Not a sponsorship, as you say, but a speculative course at your own risk with preferential finance terms - as long as you pass!. Out of interest, what are the repayment conditions should you fail at a late stage of the course?
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Yes, the saving (if you can call it that!) is that the loan repayments are made from £21k taxed + £12k tax-free as opposed to a salary of £33k taxed.
I'm insured against loss of life and medical but if I was unable to complete the course, OAT would pay back (I'd have to look up the specifics) monies paid for training not completed. I'd of course still be liable for the loan balance after that had happened - normally 6 months of grace is given after graduation before repayments are due but this may not apply in this case - negotiation would no doubt be possible. A parental guarantee is also in place as a final safety net but this was a requirement of the loan and I'd rob an old lady (well, several!) before this was called in.
If I failed a section and significantly delayed the completion of the course (i.e. my progress was unsatisfactory), I'd imagine this would no doubt jeopordise my chances with TCX. In which case (assuming completion) I'd graduate as per everybody else but in a potentially worse situation financially as I'd have a higher loan amount to pay back.
Daunting stuff but a means to an end. There's of course a risk but it's manageable!
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I'm insured against loss of life and medical but if I was unable to complete the course, OAT would pay back (I'd have to look up the specifics) monies paid for training not completed. I'd of course still be liable for the loan balance after that had happened - normally 6 months of grace is given after graduation before repayments are due but this may not apply in this case - negotiation would no doubt be possible. A parental guarantee is also in place as a final safety net but this was a requirement of the loan and I'd rob an old lady (well, several!) before this was called in.
If I failed a section and significantly delayed the completion of the course (i.e. my progress was unsatisfactory), I'd imagine this would no doubt jeopordise my chances with TCX. In which case (assuming completion) I'd graduate as per everybody else but in a potentially worse situation financially as I'd have a higher loan amount to pay back.
Daunting stuff but a means to an end. There's of course a risk but it's manageable!
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Out of interest do you know how much sector pay you will get on top of that 21k? Seems quite low even though you have the 12k tax free as well. Was wondering if they maybe have better sector pay than some airlines to give you extra money
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I think that description cover pretty much any form of training towards a fATPL, these days whether it be semi-sponsored/mentored/off your own back/modular/integrated, bar the difference in costs for the different routes.
You can debate the various merits of each route, but either way its always going to be some what speculative, most definately at your own risk, and down to you to put the work in to pass! Some routes may be cheaper, some
may offer better prospects at the end, some may even be linked with an airline but all the above still apply.
You can debate the various merits of each route, but either way its always going to be some what speculative, most definately at your own risk, and down to you to put the work in to pass! Some routes may be cheaper, some
may offer better prospects at the end, some may even be linked with an airline but all the above still apply.
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Commercial Pilot training sponsorship
HI all,
I have searched in the internet and found that Many companies offers sponsorships But to their native citizens. I am from india...aged 26 years.
Is ther any one who is going to offer sponsorship to indians......
Could any one plz help me in this.
I have searched in the internet and found that Many companies offers sponsorships But to their native citizens. I am from india...aged 26 years.
Is ther any one who is going to offer sponsorship to indians......
Could any one plz help me in this.
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I don't think only native citizens, if you have the right to live and work in EU, you can still come over if i'm not wrong.. During the training you should get a visum and if you get work a green card or something. Not pretty shure but check this link and try to contact them, ask questions..
http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Jobs/Pilot...hipscheme.html
One of the requierments is;
Nationality: You must be able to prove your unrestricted legal right to live and work in the EU and have no reason to believe that you will not be accepted for training in New Zealand.
Good luck!
/niko
http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Jobs/Pilot...hipscheme.html
One of the requierments is;
Nationality: You must be able to prove your unrestricted legal right to live and work in the EU and have no reason to believe that you will not be accepted for training in New Zealand.
Good luck!
/niko
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Need Help (Sponsorship)
Hi everyone, I am 17 and I recently applied for a Flying Scholarship.
To win the sponsorship, I have to convince the Selection Board that I deserve the sponsorship and i would make good use of it.
I have to prove this by attending the interview and by a written statement.
All i can say is that i have always wanted to be a pilot and this scholarship will make me closer to my dream.
But this is not enough to convince them
Can anyone please give me some hints/tip and advise me about what i should write in the statement and say at the interview.
Thanks
To win the sponsorship, I have to convince the Selection Board that I deserve the sponsorship and i would make good use of it.
I have to prove this by attending the interview and by a written statement.
All i can say is that i have always wanted to be a pilot and this scholarship will make me closer to my dream.
But this is not enough to convince them
Can anyone please give me some hints/tip and advise me about what i should write in the statement and say at the interview.
Thanks
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Just wondering if its the Gapan PPL sponsorship or something else?!
Well if you personally feel that you deserve the sponsorship then you must have a reason why you think that!
Think about it, probably everyone that applys is going to have the same story "All ive ever wanted is to be a pilot.. blah blah" and the board who are selecting are going to have heard the same story over and over again so you need an edge.
What have you done to foster your interest in aviation? What ways have you showed commitment and dedication to your chosen career path? Have you suffered any setbacks on your way? You need to convince them if you fall at the first hurdle you're not just going to jack it in.
All the best,
C
Well if you personally feel that you deserve the sponsorship then you must have a reason why you think that!
Think about it, probably everyone that applys is going to have the same story "All ive ever wanted is to be a pilot.. blah blah" and the board who are selecting are going to have heard the same story over and over again so you need an edge.
What have you done to foster your interest in aviation? What ways have you showed commitment and dedication to your chosen career path? Have you suffered any setbacks on your way? You need to convince them if you fall at the first hurdle you're not just going to jack it in.
All the best,
C
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BA/VS Sponsorship/Scholarship. Likely?
All,
I'm a 22 year-old university student, due to complete my Computer Science degree in June this year. I completed a PPL back in November, and am now determined to find a career in aviation and would appreciate any sensible, related advice.
At school, I had several hours flying gliders and the Bulldog with the CCF. At university, I joined the University Air Squadron and went solo with the Grob Tutor. Obtaining mostly grade 1's for my flying (fast jet), I was soon asked to make a commitment to the RAF - a commitment I couldn't make as a military career was not for me.
As with many others, I am keen to fly with the big-boys such as BA or Virgin, but am totally unable to afford the money required to obtain an ATPL. Does my experience and age lend well to a scholarship or similar? What are my best options?
I'm a 22 year-old university student, due to complete my Computer Science degree in June this year. I completed a PPL back in November, and am now determined to find a career in aviation and would appreciate any sensible, related advice.
At school, I had several hours flying gliders and the Bulldog with the CCF. At university, I joined the University Air Squadron and went solo with the Grob Tutor. Obtaining mostly grade 1's for my flying (fast jet), I was soon asked to make a commitment to the RAF - a commitment I couldn't make as a military career was not for me.
As with many others, I am keen to fly with the big-boys such as BA or Virgin, but am totally unable to afford the money required to obtain an ATPL. Does my experience and age lend well to a scholarship or similar? What are my best options?
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Virgin do not employ inexperienced pilots, and currently have no corporate interest in sponsorships (despite some rumours to the contrary). For each job available, Virgin can guarantee several hundred experienced and qualified applicants.
British Airways discontinued their Cadet sponsorship scheme in 2001. Since then, they have adopted a policy of obtaining their (small) ab-initio intake directly from the graduating courses of the Integrated schools. No investment is required on their part, and they get plenty of people. It seems unlikely they'll need to alter this policy. The majority of their intake is pilots with between 500 and 3000 hours, mostly already qualified on BA types.
Sponsorship - in the sense that someone else pays for your training - is essentially dead.
Scroggs
British Airways discontinued their Cadet sponsorship scheme in 2001. Since then, they have adopted a policy of obtaining their (small) ab-initio intake directly from the graduating courses of the Integrated schools. No investment is required on their part, and they get plenty of people. It seems unlikely they'll need to alter this policy. The majority of their intake is pilots with between 500 and 3000 hours, mostly already qualified on BA types.
Sponsorship - in the sense that someone else pays for your training - is essentially dead.
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sadly cs03dmj, i fear you have very little chance of getting any of the big boys to sponsor you. like most wannabe pilots (most also can't afford their ATPL's) you'll need to find some way of sponsoring yourself through an integrated ATPL course, and start with the small boys, before you can end up on the big boys.
Cabair, CTC, FTE, AFT (and many more) Flight training schools provide solid bases with which to launch your career, CTC is the closest to a sponsorship, but it still requires you to pay the course fees. A few of the very small airlines (but good) do still sponsor , but you'd be up against an awful lot of competition for 1-2 spots.
the fact is while airlines need pilots (yes they do) there are so many people with ATPL's and minimal hours around that the companies have no real need to sponsor new pilots. They save 50k by taking fresh self sponsored graduates.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Cabair, CTC, FTE, AFT (and many more) Flight training schools provide solid bases with which to launch your career, CTC is the closest to a sponsorship, but it still requires you to pay the course fees. A few of the very small airlines (but good) do still sponsor , but you'd be up against an awful lot of competition for 1-2 spots.
the fact is while airlines need pilots (yes they do) there are so many people with ATPL's and minimal hours around that the companies have no real need to sponsor new pilots. They save 50k by taking fresh self sponsored graduates.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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What did you mean when you said
"Obtaining mostly grade 1's for my flying (fast jet)"
Do the UAS now include fast jet flying into the elementary flying sylabus?!
I know of some who got an experience flight in a Jet, however often it was just the one flight.
What did you mean when you said
"Obtaining mostly grade 1's for my flying (fast jet)"
Do the UAS now include fast jet flying into the elementary flying sylabus?!
I know of some who got an experience flight in a Jet, however often it was just the one flight.
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Originally Posted by boeingbus2002
Do the UAS now include fast jet flying into the elementary flying sylabus?!
1) Fast Jet likely
2) Fast Jet/Rotary
3) Rotary
4) Rotary/Multi-Engine
5) Multi-Engine
6) Adios amigo
Originally Posted by Scroggs
Sponsorship - in the sense that someone else pays for your training - is essentially dead.
Singsong - you mentioned that some of the small airlines still sponser, but with sooo many posts in here, I'd appreciate if you could name-drop below or PM me...
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Try a search (use Advanced Search), using the keyword sponsorship OR sponsorships (exactly as written), thread titles only, over the last year. Get a coffee. Read and inwardly digest.
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Negative. EFT is currently done in the Grob Tutor, though after each sortie your QFI will give you a score from 1 through 5 for flying ability. The average of these scores is an indicator as to your likely stream upon joining the RAF as pilot, whereby:
1) Fast Jet likely
2) Fast Jet/Rotary
3) Rotary
4) Rotary/Multi-Engine
5) Multi-Engine
6) Adios amigo
1) Fast Jet likely
2) Fast Jet/Rotary
3) Rotary
4) Rotary/Multi-Engine
5) Multi-Engine
6) Adios amigo
If 1s and 2s are where it's at why aren't I on a Tonka squadron now!!
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FiiS, you are right, 6 is on the money, 1 is cot death.
That scale (albeit inverted) still suprises me.. In the RN, an average of 2means pack your bags, but then, those junior service standards aint a shock.
Both use the same CFS services... Before anyone starts critiquing the possibility of any marking differences.
If the said scale is true, and a 2 is multi streaming... They must be selecting the wrong candidates. Even in the RN, you had to be barely alive to get less than a 3
That scale (albeit inverted) still suprises me.. In the RN, an average of 2means pack your bags, but then, those junior service standards aint a shock.
Both use the same CFS services... Before anyone starts critiquing the possibility of any marking differences.
If the said scale is true, and a 2 is multi streaming... They must be selecting the wrong candidates. Even in the RN, you had to be barely alive to get less than a 3