Thomsonfly FTE Scheme
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Thomsonfly FTE Scheme
For those who are interested, Thomsonfly are advertising a "Pilot Approved Training Scheme" in this weeks Flight. Applications through Flight Training Europe website only. As per usual, those with only 35 years of their working lives remaining need not apply.
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It does mention that students will be dealing directly with FTE, one presumes therefore that it will be at their standard rates.
The cynic in me wonders what exactly Thompsonfly's involvement is in this scheme, beyond keeping an eye on potential future employees. The real cynic in me wonders who actually placed the advert, Thompson or FTE.
Oh well back to pressure systems and air mass Wx
The cynic in me wonders what exactly Thompsonfly's involvement is in this scheme, beyond keeping an eye on potential future employees. The real cynic in me wonders who actually placed the advert, Thompson or FTE.
Oh well back to pressure systems and air mass Wx
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Visited www.flighttrainingeurope.com and can't find a link to the application form for their scheme, only their integrated course...
Anyone have a direct link?
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Anyone have a direct link?
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Here you go mate:
http://www.flighttrainingeurope.com/application.html
I sent my phase two questions off last thursday and haven't heard anything. I think that if successful you'll know whether your invited to assesment day by end of May. Hope this helps and good luck.
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http://www.flighttrainingeurope.com/application.html
I sent my phase two questions off last thursday and haven't heard anything. I think that if successful you'll know whether your invited to assesment day by end of May. Hope this helps and good luck.
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I believe they will have concluded the testing and interview process by May because the course is a July start so its all going to happen pretty quickly. I am in the middle of doing my stage 2 questions at the moment - anyone got any tips?!!
The cost is actually 98,000 Euros as its the 62 week course with the JOC/MCC plonked on the end.
Hopefully see some of you down there!
The cost is actually 98,000 Euros as its the 62 week course with the JOC/MCC plonked on the end.
Hopefully see some of you down there!
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They've already run this scheme. Read all about it:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=152405
I'm about to put my second stage bits and pieces through. A bit sceptical though. No risk sharing, and nothing more than a look your way on completion. Hmmm
Any info from someone already on the course would be moretan helpful, of course.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=152405
I'm about to put my second stage bits and pieces through. A bit sceptical though. No risk sharing, and nothing more than a look your way on completion. Hmmm
Any info from someone already on the course would be moretan helpful, of course.
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Mate,
If information is what you want then go to the following link:
http://www.henrybevan.co.uk
This guy is one of the sponsored pilots chosen by Britannia last year. He keeps an online diary of what its like at Jerez. Funny reading and some nice pictures too.
Enjoy,
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If information is what you want then go to the following link:
http://www.henrybevan.co.uk
This guy is one of the sponsored pilots chosen by Britannia last year. He keeps an online diary of what its like at Jerez. Funny reading and some nice pictures too.
Enjoy,
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At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, who exactly placed the advert, FTE or Thomsonfly? And who is running this 'scheme'?
Am I right in assuming this is nothing more than a standard self-funded fATPL course dressed up to look more glamorous than it really is? With no real interaction from the airline at all?
Who exactly is running the selection stages? Is it FTE (meaning expensive trips to Jerez in the early summer) or Thomsonfly?
Not meaning to sound too sceptical here, but it seems like an attempt to fill some places in Jerez.
Am I right in assuming this is nothing more than a standard self-funded fATPL course dressed up to look more glamorous than it really is? With no real interaction from the airline at all?
Who exactly is running the selection stages? Is it FTE (meaning expensive trips to Jerez in the early summer) or Thomsonfly?
Not meaning to sound too sceptical here, but it seems like an attempt to fill some places in Jerez.
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I kinda agree with Hmmm (?!?!) I do have doubts.
Thanks Taiguin for that guy's webpage.
The question still remains though. Are Thomson actually going to employ anyone? Will these people be left to find their own jobs (and pay off the bond) if Thomson opt out. It does seem that the student is taking all the risk, and the training org getting all the benefits, with Thomson having an easy recruitment process, if they even decide to recruit, when the course ends.
The add was dressed up to look like the Thomsonfly colours but I can't remember who's overseeing the recruitment.
Thanks Taiguin for that guy's webpage.
The question still remains though. Are Thomson actually going to employ anyone? Will these people be left to find their own jobs (and pay off the bond) if Thomson opt out. It does seem that the student is taking all the risk, and the training org getting all the benefits, with Thomson having an easy recruitment process, if they even decide to recruit, when the course ends.
The add was dressed up to look like the Thomsonfly colours but I can't remember who's overseeing the recruitment.
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Guys,
To put everybodies mind at rest here is my view on the whole scheme.
Thomsonfly, aka Britannia using a different trade name, are putting potential candidates through a selection process. The assessment stage which people will be invited too if successful on the question stage will occur in England and i assume before the end of May. (This is in the email when the questions are sent to you.)
Those selected at the end of this will then contract with Flight Training Europe for their normal integrated course. This is 92000 Euro's i think. The same way you would if you were self sponsored. Throughout the course however Thomsonfly will monitor the progress of these candidates and if at the end of the course they have reached the required standard and there are jobs within Thomsonfly they will be awarded jobs without going through the normal Britannia recruitment process and simulator check. There is no guarentee but a good chance of employment.
The way i see it is as follows. If i am not successfull at CTC then i will pay for it myself through and integrated course at a flight training organisation. Doing this means i'll be in debt or the order 70000+ and potential without a job. This scheme appeals to people like me purely because it reduces the risk of not getting employed. It is not a guarenteed job but if there are jobs available which you would expect given thomsonfly's expansion then you'll get one. This makes the decision to pay for the training that much easier. I think your suspicion of Jerez using it as a way to get student in is outrageous. Purely because if this was the case not only would they be disgracing themselves but Britannia/Thomsonfly would be disgraced too. Britannia also did some full and some self sponsorship last year so its not a new thing.
Thats my rather lengthy opinion on the situation. If you don't like the sound of it then don't apply easy as that. Hope this helps guys,
Taiguin
To put everybodies mind at rest here is my view on the whole scheme.
Thomsonfly, aka Britannia using a different trade name, are putting potential candidates through a selection process. The assessment stage which people will be invited too if successful on the question stage will occur in England and i assume before the end of May. (This is in the email when the questions are sent to you.)
Those selected at the end of this will then contract with Flight Training Europe for their normal integrated course. This is 92000 Euro's i think. The same way you would if you were self sponsored. Throughout the course however Thomsonfly will monitor the progress of these candidates and if at the end of the course they have reached the required standard and there are jobs within Thomsonfly they will be awarded jobs without going through the normal Britannia recruitment process and simulator check. There is no guarentee but a good chance of employment.
The way i see it is as follows. If i am not successfull at CTC then i will pay for it myself through and integrated course at a flight training organisation. Doing this means i'll be in debt or the order 70000+ and potential without a job. This scheme appeals to people like me purely because it reduces the risk of not getting employed. It is not a guarenteed job but if there are jobs available which you would expect given thomsonfly's expansion then you'll get one. This makes the decision to pay for the training that much easier. I think your suspicion of Jerez using it as a way to get student in is outrageous. Purely because if this was the case not only would they be disgracing themselves but Britannia/Thomsonfly would be disgraced too. Britannia also did some full and some self sponsorship last year so its not a new thing.
Thats my rather lengthy opinion on the situation. If you don't like the sound of it then don't apply easy as that. Hope this helps guys,
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Taiguin,
Thanks for that information.
However, the suspisions are by no means 'outrageous' as you say. They are totally reasonable. The FTE website really has very little on the selection procedure, funding arrangements for succesful applicants, structure of course, involvement of airline etc. The application form asks if you have A-levels in 'Phisics' and 'Chemistrys', which, in my opinion, are very poor spelling mistakes for such companies to have on an application form. All of these things made me wonder what sort of scheme this was, thats all. The spelling mistakes suggest that this is pioneered by FTE and not Thomsonfly. It just doesn't quite have the feel that other schemes, including the previous FTE/Thomsonfly scheme, have.
Good luck to all those that apply!
Thanks for that information.
However, the suspisions are by no means 'outrageous' as you say. They are totally reasonable. The FTE website really has very little on the selection procedure, funding arrangements for succesful applicants, structure of course, involvement of airline etc. The application form asks if you have A-levels in 'Phisics' and 'Chemistrys', which, in my opinion, are very poor spelling mistakes for such companies to have on an application form. All of these things made me wonder what sort of scheme this was, thats all. The spelling mistakes suggest that this is pioneered by FTE and not Thomsonfly. It just doesn't quite have the feel that other schemes, including the previous FTE/Thomsonfly scheme, have.
Good luck to all those that apply!
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Hey Mate,
Outrageous seemed a little harsh a word to describe your claims -i agree. I take on board what your saying but i still think its a little far fetched to think the FTE are behind the supposed scheme. It would cripple the school if somebody found that out....so is it worth it for them. 700,000 say vs No reputation!?
The spelling mistakes are quite funny and i hope it doesn't reflect on the company more the fact they were in a rush to do it. I hope they let any of my spelling mistakes go in my application. I guess it will be clearer when people start having interviews etc as to who is behind the scheme for real. I'm pretty certain it will be Britannia tho!
Good luck if you apply.
Taiguin.
Just a quick not to add after looking at the spelling mistakes. It was probably wrote by FTE on behalf of Thomsonfly anyhow. Maybe the spanish persons english wasn't too good. A point to consider.
Outrageous seemed a little harsh a word to describe your claims -i agree. I take on board what your saying but i still think its a little far fetched to think the FTE are behind the supposed scheme. It would cripple the school if somebody found that out....so is it worth it for them. 700,000 say vs No reputation!?
The spelling mistakes are quite funny and i hope it doesn't reflect on the company more the fact they were in a rush to do it. I hope they let any of my spelling mistakes go in my application. I guess it will be clearer when people start having interviews etc as to who is behind the scheme for real. I'm pretty certain it will be Britannia tho!
Good luck if you apply.
Taiguin.
Just a quick not to add after looking at the spelling mistakes. It was probably wrote by FTE on behalf of Thomsonfly anyhow. Maybe the spanish persons english wasn't too good. A point to consider.
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Taiguin,
I guess you're right. They couldn't really afford in the long run to take people for a ride.
The reason I was wanting to hear info was to get an idea of the situation. I'm not going to go committing £60,000+ without investigating first, and no-one else should either.
Hope all goes well for all.
I guess you're right. They couldn't really afford in the long run to take people for a ride.
The reason I was wanting to hear info was to get an idea of the situation. I'm not going to go committing £60,000+ without investigating first, and no-one else should either.
Hope all goes well for all.
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Why was it advertised under Courses and Tuition in Flight rather than Jobs? I would expect a school to advertise under Courses and Tuition and an airline to advertise under Jobs.
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my experience DONT give up
well all!!!
how are things?? here is my spin on the whole situation and my experience with FTE to date
ok so in november of last year I applied to the thomsonfly.com cadetship run by FTE and was sent a generic e-mail saying that i was unseuccessful this time round (no suprise there)
ok so say the ad in flight international 3-9th may applied for it again on the 5th of may and on the 6th of may got an e-mail back from FTE saying the same as last year exact same e-mail!!! they never said why I diddnt get through just that there was a lot of applications!!! now i was p***ed over this as it said closin date was 15th of may so i felt they should wait till then to make decission (i also went on to their website on sunday 8th of may [fte's site] and found that they had removed the link for applying even though they said closing date was not till 15th of may) so I e-mailed them back on sunday 8th and explained all above to them and asked why i wasnt accepted (it ended up been a bit of a b****y e-mail). ok so they e-mailed me back on tuesday 10th and said it was because I hadnt the right academic grades (3 alevels) thats fair enough except im from ireland so we dont have a levels we have the leaving cert which is equilivent so again went on their website on tuesday and descovered they had the link back up so i applied again this time saying that i had 7 a levels which is how many exams i did for leaving cert i then replied to 'nicola' in FTE explained that i applied again and this time told her the story about my exams im also a qualified aircraft maintenance technican and have done some aeronautical exams so i told here that too!! anyway yesterday got reply saying i was through to phase 2 now just have to fill out these 7 questions by tomorrow!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO BOYS IF YOU DONT SUCEDE DONT GIVE UP THEY WANT TO SEE THAT YOUR WILLING TO FIGHT THEM FOR THE CHANCE OF THE JOB
sorry this was a bit long but thought it was valuable to write!!!
best of luck lads with it and hope i might see you at selection in the UK soon!!!
how are things?? here is my spin on the whole situation and my experience with FTE to date
ok so in november of last year I applied to the thomsonfly.com cadetship run by FTE and was sent a generic e-mail saying that i was unseuccessful this time round (no suprise there)
ok so say the ad in flight international 3-9th may applied for it again on the 5th of may and on the 6th of may got an e-mail back from FTE saying the same as last year exact same e-mail!!! they never said why I diddnt get through just that there was a lot of applications!!! now i was p***ed over this as it said closin date was 15th of may so i felt they should wait till then to make decission (i also went on to their website on sunday 8th of may [fte's site] and found that they had removed the link for applying even though they said closing date was not till 15th of may) so I e-mailed them back on sunday 8th and explained all above to them and asked why i wasnt accepted (it ended up been a bit of a b****y e-mail). ok so they e-mailed me back on tuesday 10th and said it was because I hadnt the right academic grades (3 alevels) thats fair enough except im from ireland so we dont have a levels we have the leaving cert which is equilivent so again went on their website on tuesday and descovered they had the link back up so i applied again this time saying that i had 7 a levels which is how many exams i did for leaving cert i then replied to 'nicola' in FTE explained that i applied again and this time told her the story about my exams im also a qualified aircraft maintenance technican and have done some aeronautical exams so i told here that too!! anyway yesterday got reply saying i was through to phase 2 now just have to fill out these 7 questions by tomorrow!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO BOYS IF YOU DONT SUCEDE DONT GIVE UP THEY WANT TO SEE THAT YOUR WILLING TO FIGHT THEM FOR THE CHANCE OF THE JOB
sorry this was a bit long but thought it was valuable to write!!!
best of luck lads with it and hope i might see you at selection in the UK soon!!!