Thomsonfly FTE Scheme
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i have said that i would prefer the october course, simply due to the fact that i need to earn some money to pay for living expenses whilst im there. However i think that the july course will be a lot more advantageous due to the fact that they will get first come first served when it comes to base choice etc. I also believe that they have a higher chance of actually being employed by the airline should Thomsonfly realise that they no longer need more flight crew(this has happened before).
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Yeah that's something we all have to remember. The first thing they said to me in my interview was that this was not a job offer. You take all the financial risk, go through the course and if you meet the required standard and their is space available you will be hired. 
TBH if i am lucky enough to get in i will go ahead as i feel this is the best opportunity for me to be fast tracked to a jet job.
TBH if i am lucky enough to get in i will go ahead as i feel this is the best opportunity for me to be fast tracked to a jet job.
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I applied for this Thomson sponsorship but had to take the assesment on may 6th (I was in Calgary...so !!!). Anyway, I really think it's a great company with real opportunities but wonder why they call this sponsorship if they give no guaranties and tell you during the interview " This is not a job offer..."
It seems much more secured with Netjets/OAT as they offer everyone a position as long as they complete OAT training and maintain the required level. I can't believe that once you pass Thomsonfly assesment then FTE integrated training you can be unemployed...I don't call this a sponsorship.
We are simply asked to take all the risk. Some of you are going to answer that it's better than nothing..Right BUT, if i had to pay for a self sponsorship training I'd NEVER spend over 60 000 pounds when you can be trained for half of this and find a position in a good airline.
Get up guys, we have some good years coming, european civil aviation industry is better than ever since september 11th and in the next few months many airlines are missing pilots.. OAT, FTE, CABAIR...are surely excellent FTO (maybe the best) but I don't believe that to be a pilot in a good airline you HAVE to enroll in one of those.
This is my point of vue, I wish good luck to all the thomson sponsorship's selected.
Good flights
It seems much more secured with Netjets/OAT as they offer everyone a position as long as they complete OAT training and maintain the required level. I can't believe that once you pass Thomsonfly assesment then FTE integrated training you can be unemployed...I don't call this a sponsorship.
We are simply asked to take all the risk. Some of you are going to answer that it's better than nothing..Right BUT, if i had to pay for a self sponsorship training I'd NEVER spend over 60 000 pounds when you can be trained for half of this and find a position in a good airline.
Get up guys, we have some good years coming, european civil aviation industry is better than ever since september 11th and in the next few months many airlines are missing pilots.. OAT, FTE, CABAIR...are surely excellent FTO (maybe the best) but I don't believe that to be a pilot in a good airline you HAVE to enroll in one of those.
This is my point of vue, I wish good luck to all the thomson sponsorship's selected.
Good flights
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Hi,
Totally agree with you and that's why they call the above a 'mentored' scheme in which the airline monitors your progress.
As far as i know with schemes like netjets/ctc/excel etc its's exactly the same. You take the financial risk and if their is a space available then you will be given the advanced training and hired. Their is no gurantee of a job.
Thomsonfly is a great company and i would love to take the risk - HIRE ME!
Totally agree with you and that's why they call the above a 'mentored' scheme in which the airline monitors your progress.
As far as i know with schemes like netjets/ctc/excel etc its's exactly the same. You take the financial risk and if their is a space available then you will be given the advanced training and hired. Their is no gurantee of a job.
Thomsonfly is a great company and i would love to take the risk - HIRE ME!
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I think this is a great time to get involved with Thomsonfly. With their planned merger with First Choice and TUI consolidating in general, it looks like the airline is definitely on the up. Besides, PPJN says the outlook for Tfly is positive, so it must be true 
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And besides, even those who don't get offered jobs after schemes like this know that they're capable of landing a job as a pilot, and I'd say it's definitely worth forking out the extra money since FTE is one of the most attractive FTOs for an airline.
But we're getting off the point.
Just out of interest, is anyone thinking of applying for the GB Airways scheme as well, just in case Tfly doesn't work out?
I noticed as well that GB offer a JIC as part of the course. Does Tfly do the same?
.And besides, even those who don't get offered jobs after schemes like this know that they're capable of landing a job as a pilot, and I'd say it's definitely worth forking out the extra money since FTE is one of the most attractive FTOs for an airline.
But we're getting off the point.
Just out of interest, is anyone thinking of applying for the GB Airways scheme as well, just in case Tfly doesn't work out?
I noticed as well that GB offer a JIC as part of the course. Does Tfly do the same?
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A JIC is a shortened JOC consisting of 20 hours sim time plus a week in ground school, compared with the same groundschool and 44 hours in the sim for the JOC.
In reality at FTE you will do 16 hours in the sim for MCC anyway (that is included in the JOC time but not the JIC time) so the GB cadets will see 36 hours in the sim in total compared to 44 for Thomson.
Really, 8 hours makes very little difference IMO. Especially when you consider that you don't want to become too type specific on the Hawker 800. It is a tricky wee beastie to fly at the best of times and for people going on to Airbus/73NG type equipment its probably not worth getting too used to the "unique" brand of automatics on that particular sim.
The real benefits of these courses are that they allow you to practice flying as part of a 2 man crew and even more than that, get you fluent in the SOP's of your sponsor company.
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In reality at FTE you will do 16 hours in the sim for MCC anyway (that is included in the JOC time but not the JIC time) so the GB cadets will see 36 hours in the sim in total compared to 44 for Thomson.
Really, 8 hours makes very little difference IMO. Especially when you consider that you don't want to become too type specific on the Hawker 800. It is a tricky wee beastie to fly at the best of times and for people going on to Airbus/73NG type equipment its probably not worth getting too used to the "unique" brand of automatics on that particular sim.
The real benefits of these courses are that they allow you to practice flying as part of a 2 man crew and even more than that, get you fluent in the SOP's of your sponsor company.
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I don’t think my mum knows what she’s agreed to though, but she can’t go back on her word now!
I hope the grinning smiley you put on the end of that sentence meant you weren't completely serious about that! Securing my parents' house against anything - particularly a loan, the repayments of which depend on me getting a job in such a volatile industry - is something I could never do. Think very, very carefully if this is the way you intend to proceed. And you should certainly make sure your mum knows EXACTLY what she's agreed to.
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Sorry to those of you that are still waiting to hear the results, but I haven't had my Phase 4 yet - and it's not going to be this week either. I'm hoping we'll be able to arrange a date for next week.
I realise it must be agonising for you - I didn't realise you would all have to wait for me (and anyone else that is still to have their Phase 4 - I think there's one other fella). From what Denise said to me, it sounded like Tfly's requirements were very flexible/changeable, and she also told me how many people were going to interview and how many places were avaiable, which gave me the impression that some offers would have been made before everyone was interviewed. So sorry about that.
It's in my best interests to have the interview as soon as possible too, so please rest assured that I'm trying to get it organised pronto!!
I'm assuming nobody has heard any news on the outcome.
Does anyone have any idea what happens re: medicals? It said earlier in this thread that Tfly have a block booking for anyone that needs them. And also, did anyone received any more details about the programme in general at their Phase 4?
I realise it must be agonising for you - I didn't realise you would all have to wait for me (and anyone else that is still to have their Phase 4 - I think there's one other fella). From what Denise said to me, it sounded like Tfly's requirements were very flexible/changeable, and she also told me how many people were going to interview and how many places were avaiable, which gave me the impression that some offers would have been made before everyone was interviewed. So sorry about that.
It's in my best interests to have the interview as soon as possible too, so please rest assured that I'm trying to get it organised pronto!!
I'm assuming nobody has heard any news on the outcome.
Does anyone have any idea what happens re: medicals? It said earlier in this thread that Tfly have a block booking for anyone that needs them. And also, did anyone received any more details about the programme in general at their Phase 4?
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Hi ppl,
I totally agree with you. I personally have to arrange finance and give notice to my employer (if successful) and this can take upto a month or so. My bank manger said to me it will take 6 weeks to get a loan that big approved so i need to move sharpish (if successful off course).
Ajmcc surly you must know your exam dates etc by now don't you?
I did speak to the recruitment guys (from the interview) on Friday and they did say to me that they have set a deadline in which if certain people can't get to the interview they will move ahead with the process....i hope this happens...although we should hear this friday at the earliest and next week definetly.
Anyhow i have ctc phase 4 this week so i am concentrating on preparing for that.
I totally agree with you. I personally have to arrange finance and give notice to my employer (if successful) and this can take upto a month or so. My bank manger said to me it will take 6 weeks to get a loan that big approved so i need to move sharpish (if successful off course).
Ajmcc surly you must know your exam dates etc by now don't you?
I did speak to the recruitment guys (from the interview) on Friday and they did say to me that they have set a deadline in which if certain people can't get to the interview they will move ahead with the process....i hope this happens...although we should hear this friday at the earliest and next week definetly.
Anyhow i have ctc phase 4 this week so i am concentrating on preparing for that.
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ppl_student - I wish I could be spending my time preparing for the interview, but unfortunately I've got my finals to be concentrating on. Chances are I will probably end up with less time to prepare for the interview than you lot have had, so don't feel like you've missed out on any preparation time.
Denise told me that they were inviting 13 people to interview for 12 places, and two of us couldn't make it on those original dates. So having interviewed 11 people, I thought they'd be in a position to fill up the July course at least. And also, she told me that the number of places was very flexible - she could not guarantee that I would get an interview at all because they may decide not to take on 12 people. This gave me the impression that places would have been allocated before I even got to meet them (putting me at a distinct disadvantage). She also said it would be very difficult for me to get on the July course because of the lack of time, meaning that everyone who was going on the July course would have to be informed before me.
yoda1, yup I do know my exam dates. I told Denise at Tfly when my exams would be the first time she phoned to offer me the Phase 4 interview. She has since phoned back to offer me another date, but that was on the same day as my penultimate exam. She said the problem is finding a time when the interviewer is going to be off-roster, so I'm just waiting to hear back from her as to possible dates.
Just to let you know, I have my last major exam on the 1st, and a small exam on the 4th (so I could potentially go to interview straight after that).
Once again, I do realise the difficulty that this is causing you. But it really is out of my hands. I've told Denise when I'm available, so it's just a waiting game now. If I haven't heard anything by Wednesday, I'll phone up and see what the situation is.
And also, sorry if this post sounds snippy - sincerity is difficult to convey by means of smileys!!
Good luck with the stage 4, yoda
Denise told me that they were inviting 13 people to interview for 12 places, and two of us couldn't make it on those original dates. So having interviewed 11 people, I thought they'd be in a position to fill up the July course at least. And also, she told me that the number of places was very flexible - she could not guarantee that I would get an interview at all because they may decide not to take on 12 people. This gave me the impression that places would have been allocated before I even got to meet them (putting me at a distinct disadvantage). She also said it would be very difficult for me to get on the July course because of the lack of time, meaning that everyone who was going on the July course would have to be informed before me.
yoda1, yup I do know my exam dates. I told Denise at Tfly when my exams would be the first time she phoned to offer me the Phase 4 interview. She has since phoned back to offer me another date, but that was on the same day as my penultimate exam. She said the problem is finding a time when the interviewer is going to be off-roster, so I'm just waiting to hear back from her as to possible dates.
Just to let you know, I have my last major exam on the 1st, and a small exam on the 4th (so I could potentially go to interview straight after that).
Once again, I do realise the difficulty that this is causing you. But it really is out of my hands. I've told Denise when I'm available, so it's just a waiting game now. If I haven't heard anything by Wednesday, I'll phone up and see what the situation is.
And also, sorry if this post sounds snippy - sincerity is difficult to convey by means of smileys!!
Good luck with the stage 4, yoda
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Hey, anyone know if (if offered a place) there will be a chance to go and see the facilities/accommodation at FTE before the start of the course?! It all looks great from what I've seen/read but I guess it would put my mind at ease seeing the place first!
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Waiting is too long!!! 
I'd like to know if, since the begening of the association between FTE & Thomsonfly, all the students selected for the FTE/Thomsonfly scheme, have been employed by Thomsonfly, after succeeding the training ?
Thanks!
I'd like to know if, since the begening of the association between FTE & Thomsonfly, all the students selected for the FTE/Thomsonfly scheme, have been employed by Thomsonfly, after succeeding the training ?
Thanks!