Reverand Lovejoy

Evening All,

I cant let this ride any longer. I failed my stage 3 about a month ago but received a phone call for a reapplication at this stage in October. After speaking to people on the CTC scheme they claim to know (or know someone who knows!) some people that have been allowed to re-apply to the scheme before the 6 month "cooling off period"

Do you kow anyone who has been allowed to do this. I was very close to passing - this has been said by the interview team. Detailed feedback has been given and worked on and I really feel like I am ready for another shot. Whether or not you agree with this - what are your thoughts? Will it be considered as a good thing or a bad thing by asking to have a go early?

The reason I ask is that I finish Uni in two weeks and want to continue the learning process instead of havign a job for 4 months and then leavining for NZ (hopefully!) and cant sleep for the want of trying to get away with an early resit.

Opinions welcome and don't be shy, I've got leather skin!!

Many Thanks
The Reverand

sicky

i've been wanting an early go at stage 2 again, but havn't looked into it. I just assumed 6 months was 6 months.

Do you think they'll get in touch when you can re-apply, or is it up to you?

A38lephant

I failed st. 2 and they re contacted me after about 5 months to re-organise. I think that was the shortest period allowed.

JamesTigris

I've also been knocked back at stage two despite passing sections of it. I'm awaiting feedback so would be interested to hear people's experiences on reapplication. As is my understanding, you cannot automatically reapply, you must be invited to do so. Having said that its never going to cost you anything to keep hammering on their door...

SA242

Thanks to everyone whos made this forum possible and for all the contributions! It is really helpful. I am from South Afrca and finishing off my uni degree this year and have my stage 2 in Feb next year. Are there any other people on the scheme or progressing through it who have come from other countries? If so please let me know how it is going?

Regards

Andrew

future captain

Hey guyz,

Just wanted to know, when you go to CTC do they requir to see your education certs, because at the moment im having trouble finding mine. Ive found my GCSE ones but no luck with A level ones

Any of you guyz shed any light on the matter, cheerz in advance.

bjkeates

Yes they do - they require you to take your passport and your education certificates to Stage 2 (and they require the originals, not photocopies.) If you're having trouble finding them, all I can suggest is that you contact your relevant exam boards and see if they can issue duplicates.

katanapilot

Future Captain,

Don't worry, while CTC say you must have the certificates, it's not the end of the world if you don't (say you had forgotten them, for example). But they will insist on seeing the originals before you sign the training agreement on successful completion of Stage 4. As suggested, contact the exam board and they can produce duplicates (I've got a feeling it's around £15 per subject!!). Or send a nice email to Mary explaining!

Cheers

future captain

Cheerz for the advice guyz, ill give the exam boards a quick call.
Also my m8's been bugging me to ask for ages, on the ctc site it says 2 alevels at c or above OR honours degree at 2:2 min. Now he has good gcse results afaik 6 a's but his alevels arnt as good, he is taking a foundation year atm, and will have a comp sci degree from good university in 3 yrs after the foundation year to brush up his maths. So with the degree could he apply even though he doesnt have the two alevels at c.

sicky

I managed to scrape my certificates together for my interview, but i have no idea where they are now, and this was only a couple of months ago!

bjkeates

Yes, I assume so. If you've got an 2:2 honours degree, it would imply that you probably have the capability to learn and understand what you need to be successful at training, and this is why they specify it. The only thing I would say is that although this would pre-qualify him to enter as far as the minimum requirements go, I don't know how the selection team would react to seeing the lower grade A-levels on the entry form - it's quite clear that they DO look at your academic and extra-curricular activities and achievements. Also, when it comes to airline selection, the lower A-levels may be looked in a less favourable light by the airlines who are looking at higher qualifications than GCSEs more and more. Having said that, computer science is a hard subject and getting a 2:2 at a good university would probably look pretty good. I would point out that I've made it on to the course having got good A-levels and although I'm currently doing a maths degree, CTC haven't specified a certain result of this as a condition for confirmation of my place, so it seems that filling at least one of the criteria will be OK. Certainly with a 2:2 degree your mate would be eligible to apply; if the A-levels weren't good, however, it might not be wise to apply before he's had his degree result confirmed. I was asked about my predicted result in my interview.

If he meets the minimum requirements, I wouldn't discourage him from applying - definitely go for it, it's a great scheme. You really have nothing to lose (apart from the expense of the trips to Bournemouth and the stage 2 day and in the grand scheme of things it isn't that great an amount.)

[pedantic mode] I don't mean to have a go, but good spelling and grammar is also pretty essential - there are quite a few forms to fill out as you proceed through the application process which WILL be scrutinised heavily by the selection team. Might be an idea to try and get into the habit! [/pedantic mode]

future captain

cheerz for that mate,

Yes, i have been known for my awkward spelling at times off rush. I will write this one slowly.

Good luck with the course, im sure you thoroughly deserved it and good luck with your degree aswell.

raviolis

True... 164 quid for a packet of crisps and a sandwich and a go at a computer game with a logitech joystick is not that expensive LOL

Sorry.. couldn't resist :-)

bjkeates

Hahaha! Very good! Yes, I take your point. It is quite an expensive day out and I'm glad I had my parents to contribute to it for me! But what I meant was compare that amount to, say, the amount one might be earning in a year (granted, I know some people aren't, I'm in that position myself) and think about the fantastic position you'll be in if you DO make it through - I'd happily pay it.

Also, regardless of the £60k bond if you do get on the course - compare the £164 to the NZ$12000 (approx £4100) for the foundation course, £600+ insurance and £302 for the JAA Class I medical. It soon makes that £164 for stage 2 seem even smaller! Although I admit that's not much consolation if you don't pass stage 2.

Delta452

Hi guys n girls,

After reading 39 pages I must say Ive gained alot of information about this program that I otherwise would not have found out so firstly thanks to everyone who has posted their experiences, I had my reservations about this scheme but I am now safe in the knowledge its not purely a plot to weed £60,000 out of people!

My question, which was asked before but was never answered, is is there an upper weight restriction for the JAR Class 1 medical exam? Ive looked on the CAA site but I cant find anywhere that gives exact figures. Im currently 6'3 and 19st and whilst a percentage of the weight is shedable "love handles" there is a large proportion which is muscle I built up from competitive swimming and weight lifting. Has anybody else experienced this problem or know of the upper limit?

Sky Wave

Probably best asked in the Medical forum. I wouldn't imagine you would have a problem.

SW

DXman

Hi guys,

Do you know approx how long would stage 2 last for?

Just trying to arrange a possible flight back to home on same day.

Cheers
DXman

Maurifly

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum.
I ask sorry then, if someone has already given that kind of info, but i were not able to find it anywere:

Is there a way to practice PILAPT test on the net, or with softwares (without costs) like the one on cockpitweb.com???

I was on www.pilapt.com but i cannot visualize correctly the web page, so that i cannot use it!
What is the containts of that page? Can someone give me info about how to find the software?

Thanks!

Maurifly

bjkeates

Depends whether you get put in the red group or the blue group, and you won't find that out until the day. One group does the maths test while another does the PILAPTs, and unfortunately those which do the maths test first have to sit around waiting until the PILAPT group have finished. Then, they swap over. Those who do the maths test second are free to go when they've finished it - it was about 2:30pm in my case. Those who do the PILAPTs second will leave when they finish that, but obviously that's much later on - I guess it would have been around 3:45-4:00pm (but I'd left before then so I'm not sure.) If you're flying to Bournemouth, you should be OK with a flight leaving after 5:30ish (you'll need to get a taxi from the Eastern Business Park round to the passenger terminal, which is at the other side of the airfield.) If you're flying from Southampton, remember to allow enough time to get from Christchurch to Southampton Airport Parkway and then to the terminal building. I really don't want to put a time on it because I don't want to be responsible for you missing your flight! But if you're getting a taxi to Christchurch station then a train to Southampton Airport Parkway, allow at least an hour and a half. The trains aren't that frequent from Christchurch, only about 2 an hour.

These are only estimates based on my experience - if anyone wants to correct any of this information, please do so.

Sounds like you might be using Firefox. I've just tried that myself and it doesn't work. Try using an up-to-date version of Internet Explorer instead.

vanderra

I passed my Stage 2 reassessment today (15th May) and have been booked in Stage 3 at Dibden on May 24th. I would be interested in hearing from anyone else who took their assessment today - hope you had the same good news as me

Mike (from Bristol)