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Old 9th Mar 2006, 14:49
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something entirely different:
I suppose most of you get to bournemouth by train right?! What would be the best connection from london?
I thought of renting a car, but every car rental says one has to be at least 25, is that true?

Thanks,

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Old 9th Mar 2006, 16:09
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Where are you flying into? Heathrow?

You need to get to London Waterloo station and then you can get a direct train to Bournemouth.
If not I believe there is a coach service from Heathrow and Gatwick.

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Old 9th Mar 2006, 17:27
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PNF,

I had a look a while back at easycar.com and if I remember right the minimum age is 21 on some of the smaller cars!

Hope that helps,

James
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Wink stage 2 - 24th march

Good evening all,
This is my first post, but everything seems relatively friendly, which is all good.

Just wondered if anyone else was doing stage 2 on the 24th. Ive looked through the pages and pages on this thread and feel I have a good grasp on what to expect. If anyone would like to give any advice, however, I wouldn't say no. Im going to drive down night before but not sure where Im staying yet, so If anyone would like to meet up the night before, exchange notes!?, probably make each other more nervouse, I'd be happy to. Also if anyone is going from the leeds area and would like to share petrol pls speak up.

Otherwise I look forward to meeting some of you there.
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Old 10th Mar 2006, 21:35
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CTC phase guidance

Could someone be kind enough to offer me some advice on stage selection process:

1 - X
2 -X
3 - What were a few of the interview questions and what were the 2 group tasks?

Kind regards - David Cooper
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Old 10th Mar 2006, 23:03
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For some queries, there are new threads.

For everything else, there's the "CTC" Thread. There's a lot more details in there

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144926

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Old 11th Mar 2006, 00:26
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sky wave,

I think I'm gonna fly into Luton, but not sure yet. And I'm planning to go over there on march 31st.
I think it would be wise to get a credit card because without it I can't book a flight on easyjet or rent a car on easycar.com.

thanks for your help.

Chris
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Hello everyone,

Another first post. I am thinking of applying for the CTC wings ATP scheme and I have some questions regarding the terms and conditions if you are placed with an airline under this scheme.

As I understand it you are not required to pay up front for the type rating,but the airline takes out a loan which is then repaid with a monthly deduction from your salary. Is this correct?
If so how big roughly is the monthly deduction,and is the salary before any deductions the same as for someone who joins with a type rating or is it less?

I understand that this will differ from airline to airline,but if someone could give a rough idea of what to expect I would appreciate it.

On the subject of finances: does stage 2 and 3 now cost £160 or are they still free?

Thanks for any replys
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Old 13th Mar 2006, 13:15
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Red bull?

Originally Posted by Paulde40

The next test is the pilapt behind the computer. You can not practice this. Just make sure you are well rested. Maybe take a red bull before entering so you're mind is quick and clear. You need to do a couple of eye hand coordination tests and some multi-tasking assignments. Maybe you can find something about pilapt on the internet.

There are no group discussions in phase 2. The day starts with a presentation of CTC. Then lunch and thereafter the tests.

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No group discussion? That's interesting. Every stage 2 day I've read about and my own stage 2 all included a group discussion. No actual group exercises, they're on at stage 3 but there should definitely be a group discussion about some random current affairs topics and other stuff. Maybe they've updated the process very recently, can anyone enlighten me?

Also, I think the comment about red-bull is what's known as 'bad advice'. Red Bull may help you feel more 'awake' but it will not increase any of the attributes that the pilapt tests are examining. Also, a large dose of caffeine combined with sugar is definitely not a good way of helping your body perform to its highest potential. Not to mention the inevitable crash that follows a caffeine/sugar high could seriously decrease your hand-eye coordination and concentration and leave asleep at the joystick so-to-speak. A quick google search will give you a lot of information about how bad for the body Red Bull really is.

And besides, even if there was a drink (Red Bull or otherwise) that increases your awareness, concentration etc. without having any negative effects, I think drinking it would constitute 'performance enhancing'. If you can't pass the pilapt tests without an 'energy boost', then you shouldn't be given a place on the scheme.

This is only an opinion after all, feel free to flame.

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Old 13th Mar 2006, 13:35
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Ctc stage 2

Been trauling through the CTC thread but there are far too many pages on there!! Does anyone recommend anywhere I can practice my numeracy for stage 2? websites books etc.. also what are the group discussions like?? many thanks
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Old 13th Mar 2006, 14:19
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The whole point of putting all the CTC (or other FTO) threads in one place is so that you know where to look or to ask your question, and don't litter the forum with duplicates of questions or discussions held earlier. Please put just a little effort in to reading this thread; you might actually find out stuff useful to you.

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Old 13th Mar 2006, 15:08
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paulde40

Cheers for the advice mate, I'll take it on board. Is there any need for long division as some have suggested? Just that it's been about 10 years since I've used it, so will have to give it extra practice, considering the test is only 15 mins long.

Also, this may sound like a stupid question, but are the exchange rates provided or are we expected to have a rough idea?
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also is there any fractions pythagarus etc.. or is all simple stuff, ive been going a bit overboard if its just + - x and /!!
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Do you want it on a plate????

newbie008,

You have the potential to view loads of advice, regardless if you've read 30 pages of this thread or 3.
Newbie
Been trauling through the CTC thread but there are far too many pages on there!!
God help us all!! You can't help anyone who doesn't want to help themselves.
Newbie
also is there any fractions pythagarus etc.. or is all simple stuff, ive been going a bit overboard if its just + - x and /!!
This is exactly the point..... why not see fractions as division tasks and pythagarus as sqaures, ie multiplication. Yes........division and multiplication are required even on a decimal level, so as has been mentioned before....scrub up. They are not hard in their own right - just in the time frame given.





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are the exchange rates provided or are we expected to have a rough idea?
The exhange rates are given to make them a decimal division/mulitplication example. I.e. "you have 26 quid, you go to America where the echange rate is 1.6 dollars to the pound, you spend nothing then go to france where the euro is 0.8 to the dollar. How many Euros do you have"?

Good luck to you both.

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Old 13th Mar 2006, 19:37
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Hey. Ive read alot of this thread. Seems to me that there are few people who get through stage three. If there is anybody who has got to stage four or further, is there any chance you could let me know what you think you did right. ive been asked back after narrowly missing out at stage three. im picking my brains trying to think what i can do in the four months left before my interview again.I want to do something that will improve my chances. i was thinking of getting a few hours of flying in.
Any advice would be greatly received. thanks azzz.
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Lovejoy

I appreciate your somewhat condescending advice. However, I merely asked whether exhange rates were provided. I don't think there is any harm in trying to get the best grasp of what to expect on the day. With regards reading through the thread, I have done that thoroughly and at no point is there a mention of the answer to my question. My question was a response to anothers post.

I'm sure you'll know about the elements of stress going into each of the phases. What reason is there for patronising comments from people who have managed to get themselves through to the next stage?

Congratulations for progressing as far as you have and good luck in future.
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Anybody here applied to CTC whilst doing their ATPL Theory Groundschool? (Distance Learning or Full Time). I've been going for a few months but do not have any exams done yet. Anyone know if this is a big no no or not?
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Superpilot,

Think it would be an advantage to be honest, you've already got a head start with the theory, which makes the whole process a bit less stressful! I know of at least one guy on the scheme who had done all this Atpl exams ( via University ) before starting in Nz. Lucky bugger only had to think about the flying when he was there, more time for spending on the beach too!

Shouldn't be a prob

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his3dmw,

At no point was any condescending tone aimed at yourself. After reading your post I edited mine to make sure that any judgement was aimed at newbie only. If it was mistaken, I'm sorry. Your question was valid which is why I did my best to answer it.

It just frustrates me when people spend alot of time answering questions only to be asked it over and over again because of the "I can't be bothered attitude".

Also, your u/name is similar to a leeds Uni login - r u there?

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got the stage 4 sim check coming up soon. any advice from somebody who has recently done it? was it in King Air 200 or the DA42? and what they did want you to do - circuits, straight and level, turns etc?? any help very much appreciated.

re getting through stage 3, would suggest reading up about the airlines involved, basic mechanics of why a plane flies and show your enthusiasm and determination to become a pilot. read a couple of books about flying, some magazines e.g. Flight International, Airliner World, go to the boeing and airbus websites etc - all give good info that you can drop into the conversation. need to show that you are motivated and knowlegable about the industry. good luck!
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