Ferry Flying
Ferry Flying
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yes, you can. just don't get paid for it. also, some insurances might required a minimum experience in order to insure the ferry flight (north atlantic crossing mostly).
it is a great way of bulding time !!!!
it is a great way of bulding time !!!!
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I'm sure there was a thread on ferry flying a few months ago. One of the people who posted appeared to be involved in Atlantic ferry flying himself.
I do recall him chatting on about the fact that you need over a thousand hours or something to satisfy insurance companies.
Bill
I do recall him chatting on about the fact that you need over a thousand hours or something to satisfy insurance companies.
Bill
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Hi - I ferried a PA-28 from Northern England to Germany in August, and the owner's insurers needed to know:
- what my licences were (i.e, JAA or FAA, PPL or CPL, IMC or IR, etc)
- my total hours
- how many hours on type
- if I had any claims to my name
They were satisfied with the answers, and I got to do the flight. However, I didn't get paid for it (the owner paid for my expenses and refunded landing fees, AVGAS uplift, etc) - I reckon if I had insisted on dosh, he would have used someone else... Got 5.4 flight hours at somebody else's expense though, and got to cross the Channel and fly over France, Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany (just).
I wouldn't ferry a single engine a/c - or a MEP - over the North Atlantic; that's REALLY serious business best left to ferry professionnals.
Cheers
- what my licences were (i.e, JAA or FAA, PPL or CPL, IMC or IR, etc)
- my total hours
- how many hours on type
- if I had any claims to my name
They were satisfied with the answers, and I got to do the flight. However, I didn't get paid for it (the owner paid for my expenses and refunded landing fees, AVGAS uplift, etc) - I reckon if I had insisted on dosh, he would have used someone else... Got 5.4 flight hours at somebody else's expense though, and got to cross the Channel and fly over France, Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany (just).
I wouldn't ferry a single engine a/c - or a MEP - over the North Atlantic; that's REALLY serious business best left to ferry professionnals.
Cheers
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try http://www.ferryflight.info/ ...
They hire ferry pilots but I don't know if you can get hired with a PPL/IR only ...
They hire ferry pilots but I don't know if you can get hired with a PPL/IR only ...
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Looking for some ferry work
Hi folks,
I'm wondering if anyone's got any info on how best to go about getting ferry work? I'm thinking, C172s across the north atlantic and that kind of thing.
TIA.
I'm wondering if anyone's got any info on how best to go about getting ferry work? I'm thinking, C172s across the north atlantic and that kind of thing.
TIA.
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WX man,
Me again!
Dont forget your lifejacket!
...and the dinghy.
...oh yeah, and the flares (no, not the troosers)
...full immersion suit, ELT, GPS, K rations, water etc.
...and a good waterproof novel. You could be there a looooong time WHEN (not if) the engine decides to play silly buggers with you. (may I suggest Tolstoy's War and Peace with the extended introduction?)
You've got a twin rating mate! That's what they're for!
Take care and all the best!
Me again!
Dont forget your lifejacket!
...and the dinghy.
...oh yeah, and the flares (no, not the troosers)
...full immersion suit, ELT, GPS, K rations, water etc.
...and a good waterproof novel. You could be there a looooong time WHEN (not if) the engine decides to play silly buggers with you. (may I suggest Tolstoy's War and Peace with the extended introduction?)
You've got a twin rating mate! That's what they're for!
Take care and all the best!
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Ferry Flights
Hi all, I'm holding a JAA CPL. Who knows if there are co;panies recruting pilots for ferrying single qnd multi engine from America to EUR, or anywhere else -after training of course-
Thanks
Thanks
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Thanks a lot for your infos guys!!!
I do remember there was a thread some times ago regarding ferry flights. I tried to recall it but I lost it. I will keep posted in case I find it again, pls do the same
cheers
I do remember there was a thread some times ago regarding ferry flights. I tried to recall it but I lost it. I will keep posted in case I find it again, pls do the same
cheers
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I CANNOT believe that someone with only 250 hrs is even contemplating ferry pilot work!!
I know that FTO’s encourage confidence, but is stupidity now part of the course??
be thankfull that no one will insure you and no one will let you!!
I know that FTO’s encourage confidence, but is stupidity now part of the course??
be thankfull that no one will insure you and no one will let you!!
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From http://www.ferryflight.info/ :
Q. How experienced should a delivery pilot be?
A. Crossing the oceans and flying in difficult conditions over foreign lands is not for the inexperienced pilot. Many insurance companies will not insure a professional delivery pilot until they have flown 5-10 supervised oceanic crossings. A minimum of a Multi, Commercial & Instrument Pilot license is required. Usually, a minimum of 1-2,000 hours total time is also required and 50-100 hours in each type. Decision making skills and instrument skills must be very high. The conditions are often icy, windy, cloudy and stormy. Many approaches are conducted at night, using non-precision equipment without radar assistance. The terrain is often treacherous.
Q. How can a pilot become a ferry pilot?
A. There are only a handful of professional delivery pilots operating. Flying with an experienced ferry pilot is the only way to gain the necessary skills to become a full time delivery pilot. Some initial crossings are conducted in the right seat of a larger aircraft before the new ferry pilot will fly a single engine aircraft in loose formation with another aircraft. Once a few supervised crossings have been made, the new pilot will begin delivering single engine piston aircraft and gradually work up to multi-engine turboprop aircraft.
Q. Can an owner ride along with the ferry pilot?
A. In some cases, yes. For King Air C90 or larger, the owner is welcome to ride along with the ferry pilot. For GA aircraft, the decision will be made based on time of year, aircraft make and route. Simple restrictions on weight, balance and cabin capacity can prevent the owner from being able to fly along. During the last 5 delivery years, around 15% of our deliveries were completed with the owners on board.
Rgds, Tri
Q. How experienced should a delivery pilot be?
A. Crossing the oceans and flying in difficult conditions over foreign lands is not for the inexperienced pilot. Many insurance companies will not insure a professional delivery pilot until they have flown 5-10 supervised oceanic crossings. A minimum of a Multi, Commercial & Instrument Pilot license is required. Usually, a minimum of 1-2,000 hours total time is also required and 50-100 hours in each type. Decision making skills and instrument skills must be very high. The conditions are often icy, windy, cloudy and stormy. Many approaches are conducted at night, using non-precision equipment without radar assistance. The terrain is often treacherous.
Q. How can a pilot become a ferry pilot?
A. There are only a handful of professional delivery pilots operating. Flying with an experienced ferry pilot is the only way to gain the necessary skills to become a full time delivery pilot. Some initial crossings are conducted in the right seat of a larger aircraft before the new ferry pilot will fly a single engine aircraft in loose formation with another aircraft. Once a few supervised crossings have been made, the new pilot will begin delivering single engine piston aircraft and gradually work up to multi-engine turboprop aircraft.
Q. Can an owner ride along with the ferry pilot?
A. In some cases, yes. For King Air C90 or larger, the owner is welcome to ride along with the ferry pilot. For GA aircraft, the decision will be made based on time of year, aircraft make and route. Simple restrictions on weight, balance and cabin capacity can prevent the owner from being able to fly along. During the last 5 delivery years, around 15% of our deliveries were completed with the owners on board.
Rgds, Tri
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Ferry Flight
I did a ferry flight (Helped the owner) fly an Antonov AN2 from Ottawa, Canada to Reykjavik, Iceland via Greenland.
One of the most scary but amazing things I have ever done....
If you get the chance to ride along on one, do it as it's a total buzz.
At one point we were flying the Atlantic at 3000 feet just before we got to Greenland.
Spectacular simply does not do it justice.
CY&B
One of the most scary but amazing things I have ever done....
If you get the chance to ride along on one, do it as it's a total buzz.
At one point we were flying the Atlantic at 3000 feet just before we got to Greenland.
Spectacular simply does not do it justice.
CY&B