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Cessna Birddog C/N 24541 Ex F-GFVE

Old 19th May 2013, 20:11
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Cessna Birddog C/N 24541 Ex F-GFVE

I am sorry I am writing this in English, but my written French is not good enough to make this request.

I have recently bought a share in the Cessna Birddog (O-1E, L19 or C305C) that was originally in French service.

I want to establish the history of the aircraft, particlaly its French military service.

It was delivered direct from Cessna to Algeria in 1957. It must have had an accident as there is a plate saying it was repaired at Bleda in 1960.

It was sold onto the civil market, as F-GFVE, the first log book I have starts in March 1987. It was operated for many years at Fayence, doing glider towing, before being sold to England. It stayed on the French civil register until 2004 when it was put on the FAA register as N134TT.

I would like to obtain any history available, markings, code letters etc and to hear from anyone associated with the aircraft.

If anyone knows a better web site for this request I would be grateful if it was re-posted.


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Old 21st May 2013, 09:16
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John, I suggest trying Google Translate to convert your text in to French (a pretty simple cut and paste job). I don't speak French, so I cannot vouch for the site's language accuracy, but I'm confident it will help you reach your target audience better.

I have used Google Translate to communicate on web forums, both in German and Polish, and it has been successful enough to make matters understood on both sides!
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This is a small French forum so not much going on, replies will be slow to come in but you might (I hope) get what you want.
I have been to Fayence and I have seen your "bird" but no info I am afraid.

Good luck though and enjoy.

On the subject of Google translate I find it pretty awful as well as quite irritating specially if you post on a site where most people speak english (French included) like Pprune.

Saying that, on a french only website, I would do differently as you would need to target a wider and potentially less skilled at languages, audience.

PS: Only Fool and Horses...> You can practice some French with it . Maybe not be very useful but always funny

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John, I tried to 'google' your bird and could not find a registry of planes which were used by the french army (called ALAT) in Algeria.

but I found this gallery : Cessna L-19A Bird Dog - French wings over Algeria with a lot of pictures of L-19...

May I suggest you to contact them...
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Or contact the fayence aeroclub, ( details in google) and ask to speak to a mechanic that was there prior 2004. . Yes a bit of french would probably help if you phone them..
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This is a small French forum so not much going on
Certes, mais c'est toujours un plaisir de lire cher ami! Même si tes références en matière d'humour anglais ne sont pas les miennes...
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I have just found your decade old question about your Cessna 0-1 Bird Dog on the forum while I was doing some research about the aircraft to add to a YouTube film that I've recently posted - here's a link to that if you are interested -

I'm guessing that you may have found the information that you were after elsewhere, as your 0-1 is now in true French Army de L'Aire colours, but just in case you have not seen all of the information that I found about it, here are some web links that gave me the details about the Bird Dog that I have put into the description on YouTube. These include some original pictures of the O-1 while it was in French service.

The first is a link to a 99 page publication about the Cessna L-19E Bird Dog in French military service - on page 56 is listed a potted history of your O-1 24541 https://drive.google.com/file/d/14a7...Q82/view?pli=1
The publication is also interesting for all of the detail it gives in general.

The website www.ALAT.FR contains a wealth of information and original photographs about the French Air Force. Included are 2 photographs of your Cessna L19/0-1 24541. These can be found on this weblink and then by scrolling down to pages 27 and 28 - here https://www.alat.fr/mediatheque-diap...ge-alat-5.html

There is a wealth of information there and elsewhere on the website and not being a French speaker myself I found copy/paste and 'google translate' very helpful.

My apologies for wasting your time if you're already aware of all of this and thank you for showing your 0-1 off at Duxford's 'The Americans' Flying Day on 28 July last.

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