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Live in the centre of Paris and work from CDG?

Old 28th Sep 2008, 16:14
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Live in the centre of Paris and work from CDG?

Hello guys,

I know very little about Paris but an opportunity has arisen with my company to fly from CDG. I would like to know how realistic it is to live in the centre of Paris and work from CDG, is it possible to get the train to work or would early starts and late finishes require a car? If Paris isn't possible can anyone recommend and nice towns within easy reach of the airport as possible alternative place to live?

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Old 28th Sep 2008, 17:53
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Yes there is the train RER B between Paris and CDG T1 and T2 (we often see some cabin crew using this service)
there is a bus service RATP between CDG and Opera
There are the air france coaches (les cars Air France) between CDG and Champs Elysees - Etoile

It can take more than an hour by bus or car due to dense traffic jam, rain, etc..

I think you can find more accurate information on the ADP website.

Good luck and vive la République, et vive la France!
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Best places in Paris area

I lived many years in Paris with a girlfriend - behind Montmartre (19e arrondissement).
Best is being with fast transport (metro) to Gare du Nord, then RER trains to CDG T1 or T2.
Or consider living close to Roissy area, but you might need your own transport.
I hate surface transport in Paris (buses etc) because of traffic delays.
Trains are better (unless strikes) and inexpensive.
Roissy "country" area near the CDG airport is a delightful place to live.
While Paris (city) is expensive, the "country" is still affordable.
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Can't remember the time of the first RER from centre of Paris to airport, so it depends how "early" your early is. If I recall , the Roissy Bus which leaves from close to Opera starts a little earlier. Last RER used to be around midnight ( but I am talking 1996 so things may have improved) so if you get in a bit late you are stuffed. Road traffic got worse by a factor of ( felt like ) 4 between 92 & 2000, I wouldn't recommend trying to drive in and out of town too often, it is truly awful for many hours each side of the rush hour. What was a lonely drive @ 0530 in 92 became quite a chore 8 years later, and we are 8 years further on now, so I guess it sucks. If you fancy a different version, 20km or so North of CDG, Senlis is a very nice town, albeit a little pricey ( as of course is the centre of Paris) and you won't feel too out of place. It has most of the charm you would expect to find in a quaint English country town and then some. For there you need a car of course, but drive to Airport is relatively painless apart from the Q at the exit @ CDG. the nearest RER is however a few km away, which keeps the less-desirables away a bit at least.
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Thanks for the replies guys, I had started to come to the conclusion that living in the centre of Paris is not really a viable option. Some of these towns to the North sound like a good alternative though.

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From Senlis, there is a new way to go to to CDG : the Picardie Roissy Bus. Fast ( around 20 minutes ), reliable and not expensive. Begins early, but ends a little early for some jobs. See here :

Site des Courriers de l'Ile de France

And there :

Site des Courriers de l'Ile de France
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Eh ben il y a des courageux (ou des inconscients) ici. Jamais je ne mettrai les pieds dans le RER B entre Gare du Nord et CDG, de surcroit en uniforme et de surcroit tard le soir. En voiture ça passe très bien, 25 minutes a tout casser entre St Lazare et CDG, mais bien entendu il faut connaitre son chemin.
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very clever answer indeed...using the wrong language to "help" a foreigner who has very little knowledge of Paris.
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on the other hand the main title of this forum is REst of the world AND NON-English language Forums>French Forum....

Donc quelque part, il a quand meme raison. Les espaces francophones doivent le rester, sinon il faudrait creer un espace esperanto-like afin de satisfaire tout le monde.
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quel est le meilleur forum pour poser une question sur Paris que le forum francophone?

notre "ami" semble devoir aller là bas par le fait de son employeur, et ne doit pas parler français, donc où est le problème?

un français qui va bosser en expat je ne sais où n'apprends pas la langue autoctone pour autant...

on a vraiment le chic pour accueillir les gens...navrant...et très étonnant venant de quelqu'un qui ne bosse pas en France...
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et pourquoi un forum en breton, un en corse, autre en ch'ti...après tout le Français n'a pas plus de légitimité pour les régionalistes que l'anglais pour les Franchouillards.
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Well said 5 RINGS.
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very clever answer indeed
Merci.

using the wrong language
Comme tu l'as indiqué plus bas, ceci est un forum "francophone".

Les espaces francophones doivent le rester
Absolument.

n'apprends pas la langue autoctone
Commence déjà par apprendre le français:
1. C'est "n'apprend".
2. C'est "autochtone"

et pourquoi un forum en breton, un en corse, autre en ch'ti
Excellente idée mais pas ici dans les pages FRANCOPHONES.
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je pars en vacances trois semaines...quel bonheur de ne plus te croiser sur les forums...quel bonheur...et maintenant que tu vas voler de nuit la plupart du temps, on ne va même plus t'entendre à la fréquence...
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je pars en vacances trois semaines
Super, ça nous en fera aussi
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Manflex55, it is indeed the French forum however the original poster had the best chance of a response here & presumably asked the Q in English as he doesn't (yet) understand French.
You, on the other hand, presumably understand English as ( Phaw ) you are forced to exercise it on the RT everyday when you leave French airspace ( poor ex Air- Inter pilots) and assumedly understood the original query & responses. I would therefore respectfully suggest that good manners would have demanded a response in English (if you feel comfortable with that task )& certainly not a lengthy discourse over why this part of PPRuNe must remain only Francophone.
Your attitude is remarkably similar to many French people I encounter here in Girona ( which isn't far from France, but is certainly not in France) who breeze into shops /restaurants/ airport check -in & just start speaking French without even asking if the Catalan/Spaniard in front of them might perhaps understand their language. Or indeed the passenger I had on a flight to Tenerife who couldn't understand why he wasn't welcomed on board in French . . . an Irish aircraft flying from Catalunya to The Canaries with British Flightdeck and Catalan/Polish (etc) Cabin Crew, but why we are not making the announcements and on-board welcome in French.
I know the British are just as bad at this attitude, but you must remember that worldwide we have a rather higher chance of finding someone speaking our language than you do, so at least our arrogance is slightly more realistic, albeit just as penible from your viewpoint I am sure.
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captplaystation,

accusing Manflex of bad manners then proceeding to enumerate the whole list of clichés about the French in the French Forum is not what I'd call good manners, huh?
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Merci ma petite modo que j'aime

captmachin,
Bienvenue sur ce fil

the original poster had the best chance of a response here & presumably asked the Q in English as he doesn't (yet) understand French
Possible, mais rien ne m'empêche de répondre en français, je ne pense pas que ça gêne le monsieur, il lui suffit de ne lire que les réponses en anglais. Idem pour toi.

You, on the other hand, presumably understand English
J'ai quelques bases.

you are forced to exercise it on the RT everyday when you leave French airspace
Pas la peine de remuer le couteau dans la plaie non plus.

I would therefore respectfully suggest that good manners would have demanded a response in English (if you feel comfortable with that task)
1. Je suis très mal élevé (la faute en incombe à mes parents)
2. Ben justement non, je ne le sentais pas.

not a lengthy discourse over why this part of PPRuNe must remain only Francophone
Discours qui, malgré sa supposée longueur, ne t'a visiblement pas convaincu. Donc tu vois, il faut que j'insiste.

Your attitude is remarkably similar to many French people
Merci merci, je suis flatté.

Girona ( which isn't far from France, but is certainly not in France)
Ah, tu as des notions de géographie je vois.

I know the British are just as bad at this attitude, but you must remember that worldwide we have a rather higher chance of finding someone speaking our language than you do
Hélas...

Ceci dit ton intervention n'a rien à voir avec la question posée. Moi au moins, je restais dans le sujet
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"je restais dans le sujet". . unlike the Europe Air Post thread then, where the info on jobs is secondary to " Stephanie" but I digress.
My point simply is that it would have been more helpful, if you indeed wanted to offer the original poster some advice, to answer in a language you know he understands, rather than being so "precious" to guard your little bit of France in this very Anglophone site.

With manflex55 & 5 RINGS having each other for company, I am sure they don't need any more sarcasm from me anyhow. You should note that I freely admit ( as I stated in my post) that us Brits suffer from the same myopia as regards the language we expect to communicate in ( I speak English & if they don't understand I SPEAK ENGLISH LOUDLY, kinda sums it up) I was merely pointing out my experience of how ridiculous it can appear to an outsider when someone automatically assumes their own language will be understood & used, without even acknowledging that it is perhaps a little optimistic to expect everyone to understand it. As I said, worldwide British/Anglophone optimism is a little more justified, lucky for us ,as we are so crap at & unwilling to learn languages ( although we are by no means alone in this attitude) but that I can partly blame on British schooling more than our "island mentality".

Anyhow, to go back to the (much) earlier post ,I was surprised that manflex thinks Paris St Lazare is an easy 25 min (even if you avoid the main routes) my experience of Parisian traffic would suggest that was only sure at silly o'clock and not all day. It is indeed 12 years since I used the RER to go to CDG but it seemed Ok if you disguised your "stripes" in Winter with a black anorak & in Summer adopted the "Waiter look" by removing your epaulettes & Airport I,D , but I guess Paris didn't get any safer since then ( like any European city nowadays)
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being so "precious" to guard your little bit of France in this very Anglophone site.
Justement, ce petit espace mérite qu'on le défende, sinon il deviendra de plus en plus petit et finira par disparaître complètement.

With manflex55 & 5 RINGS having each other for company, I am sure they don't need any more sarcasm from me anyhow.
Mais si, plus on est de fous plus on rit. 5 RINGS est en vacances, donc sa place de bouffon est vacante. Bienvenue

manflex thinks Paris St Lazare
Manflex habite à St Augustin, soit 5 minutes à pied de la Gare St Lazare, donc il connaît son sujet. Et il ne prend pas les transports en commun car lui-même est hors du commun.
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