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The European Commission has apparently given unconditional approval regarding the acquisition.
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I guess there are still no news yet for the future of the airline?
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TNT is currently increasing its long haul destination list (esp. to the US) tanks to agreements with QR, using LGG as hub.
Doesn't look like a dying airline. |
Of course it doesnt look like a dying airline. Actually the opposite is happening. But my question was referring after the FedEx buyout what will happen.
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ASL Win
:ok: ASL have been confirmed as taking TNT Airways and Pan air as suspected.
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What will be the impact for the current wet-leased aircraft from Jettime, Bluebird and West Atlantic, flying for TNT Airways?
ASL is slowly but surely getting a monopoly on narrowbody and turboprop Cargo ACMI. |
and Ukrainian and Atran ? :E
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From :
FedEx to maintain major hubs in Liege, Paris CDG and Cologne following "historic" TNT acquisition - Air Cargo News "We will have three primary hubs in Europe (CDG, LGG, CGN), but that doesn’t mean we don’t have other important facilities, we just opened new facilities in Copenhagen, Milan and Stansted" So, 6 hubs in europe ? Really ? How many of those are open 24/7, no slots and a lot of room for expansion ? |
Interesting quote
"And asked about the sale of the TNT aircraft to ASL Aviation, Bronczek revealed that FedEx would keep a “few” of TNT's Boeing 747 aircraft" |
Here it is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4j8...RaJFZ7Z3iybgjO
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Can anyone please advice on the current hiring situation? Thank you
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Keeping LGG is no surprise.
#1 CDG and CGN cannot take on the LGG volume. #2 TNT received significant government subsidies that must be repaid if employment at LGG falls. FedEx took on the obligation by buying TNT. |
ok if they have no choice for that one, do they have the choice for the other 2 ?
Fedex 777 are flying between CGN and CDG, that's already a short distance (40 min flight time), it would be a bit mad to see LGG-CGN |
CGN is rather small compared to LGG. Plus the place is UPS country... CDG is FedEx's second largest hub after Memphis. Dozens of flights route through it on a daily (nightly...) basis. 1900 people are employed there. The sort centre has recently been vastly expanded. And FX even manage aircraft movements there with their own ground frequency. In other words, they have been given a lot of leeway to do their own thing. The French authorities will bend over backwards to keep them there (as they did to get the hub there in the first place) for economic and employment reasons. Full stop.
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So any news regarding ASL deal? Are they going to expand the longhaul fleet?
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Some news :
How TNT Acquisition Is Driving FedEx's European Growth - Market Realist So any news regarding ASL deal? Are they going to expand the longhaul fleet? The 3 777 are still around, but it seems the LGG-JFK route is 'sometimes' handled by Fedex 777 FedEx may also gain on a cost front by utilizing TNT’s lower cost of operations at its Liege hub in Belgium. However, FDX has its own hub at Charles de Gaulle in Paris. However, the industrial disputes in France might get in the way of the company’s smooth European operations through that pivot. In addition, the Liege hub is also at the territorial center of a prominent business triangle between London, Frankfurt, and Milan. |
The two weekends of LGG-JFK-LGG ops "handled" by a FedEx 777 are being handled on a charter basis. Maybe a TNT 777 is on C check?
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nope, all 3 busy from FR24.
https://www.flightradar24.com/reg/oo-tsa https://www.flightradar24.com/reg/oo-tsb https://www.flightradar24.com/reg/oo-tsc |
Ok. Regardless the FedEx ops for the past two weekends are charters.
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I think you will find these are operating due to scheduled MX of the TNT/ASL 747s.
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I really hope it will turn out well. I ve worked for TNT on the 747 fleet and i must admit it was one of the best jobs i ve ever had. Great people.
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OO-THB is back.
there was 3 round trip LGG-JFK with fedex 777, charters then ... so nothing is changed |
Old Freightdog is right, it's because of scheduled MX on the wide body fleet and ASL could not refuse Fedex aircraft which were offered. it created a lot of problems as Fedex would not take grooms on these flights, all horses offloaded.
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Is that policy for US operated A/C not to take jumpseaters? Oh well, at the least the poor horses had a great time at `Horse Hotel´ at LGG; whilst the poor groomers probably drowned at the Park Inn :o)
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Originally Posted by old freightdog
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Is that policy for US operated A/C not to take jumpseaters? Oh well, at the least the poor horses had a great time at `Horse Hotel´ at LGG; whilst the poor groomers probably drowned at the Park Inn :o)
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If the grooms are on the General Declaration, no need for fortified doors on a freighter. at least not on EASA registered aircraft. But then again, some airlines have completely succombed to paranoia and xenofobism.
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So Fedex just anounced massive expansion at CDG, what does that mean for LGG? Same question applies for CGN, where FX only plays second fiddle to UPS and always suffers as a result. With the Paris expansion, I doubt CGN will have much of a future (at least no further expansion) , except as a primary gateway for Germany perhaps.
But what about LGG with the expansion in Paris? Will it still be there in 11 years? |
It smels very bad for CGN and bad enough (but) for LGG ...
Apparently, With the TNT merge, they promissed to keep LGG as a "significant operation" for 10-years while “avoid significant job reductions" (so they promissed that on behalf of ASL ?) but on long term ... it's all about politics (btw, now is THE time for the carex project, using high speed trains between LGG and CDG) EURO CAREX : Cargo Rail Express |
Originally Posted by Acid-drop
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It smels very bad for CGN and bad enough (but) for LGG ...
Apparently, With the TNT merge, they promissed to keep LGG as a "significant operation" for 10-years while “avoid significant job reductions" (so they promissed that on behalf of ASL ?) but on long term ... it's all about politics (btw, now is THE time for the carex project, using high speed trains between LGG and CDG) EURO CAREX : Cargo Rail Express |
Don't have a crystal ball, can't predict the future, but under FedEx the past has been good for LGG. Since taking over, FedEx spent €100 million renovating/upgrading the sort, employment, routes, and fleet have gone up. Also LGG is a stop on the West-bound RTW (MEM-SEA-ANC-PVG-LGG-MEM). Rumors are West Atlantic has a contract to add 4 B378s (first one is confirmed/onsite), and FedEx is to work with the airport to expand the apron. Last year, FedEx announced the goal is LGG the highest performing Euro sort, so maybe year 11 could be good. Otoh FedEx still trucking from CGN US-origin containers...
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