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not the office jnr 8th November 2013 07:53

Evergreen Closing Down??
 
Anybody know if this is true or not? Or know anything more on it?

Evergreen International Airlines, McMinnville-based air freight company, will reportedly close Nov. 29 | OregonLive.com


Sorry to see them go if it is.

Desert185 8th November 2013 10:49

They haven't been paying their 747-200 simulator monthly fees to United DENTK and Evergreen has been denied access to their sim for awhile. Doesn't look good for them.

MarkerInbound 8th November 2013 21:20

When the boss doesn't say "No" that means yes. They've been routing ANC to JFK off the west coast of Canada in Oakland's airspace till they turn east south of Seattle. Rumor was they couldn't pay NavCanada the overflight fees.

G&T ice n slice 9th November 2013 08:56

Evergreen Press Release

and to save you going through here's the text:

As has been previously reported in the press, Evergreen's business has been adversely impacted over the past several years by decreased demand in military spending and weakness in global economic markets. Management has moved to aggressively address these challenges, including through the divestiture of businesses and assets and the significant reduction of secured debt. Evergreen is in discussions with its significant constituencies and is exploring available strategic alternatives with those constituencies. While Evergreen generally does not comment on market rumor or conjecture, rumors that a decision has been made to cease operations at this time are false. Evergreen remains committed to continuing to address the current business environment with its customers.

flugholm 9th November 2013 09:01

More...
 
A little more information here:

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/arti...nclick_check=1

Very sad!

sidman 9th November 2013 22:02

We can't fly over Canada at all.. Smith want to keep flying so we can do the UPS peak flying. He has to get every penny he can get before he shuts down.

Desert185 9th November 2013 23:33

Give my regards to Lou-uh-ville.

sidman 10th November 2013 04:32

We will never see it..

Desert185 10th November 2013 12:54

Sorry. I was a non-sched guy a long time ago. It was actually my favorite airline flying. Hope all works out well for you.

TowerDog 10th November 2013 21:46

I was with Evergreen years ago also, hope they make it, had fun there and first job in jets, DC-8s, not for the faint of hearth.

400drvr 11th November 2013 01:18

Sorry to see them go
 
I started with the Zone in 1988 and flew the 727 and 747 while I was there.

I wish them well if the news is true.

TowerDog 11th November 2013 11:51


I started with the Zone in 1988
Ditto, February 1988 class on the DC-8-73, than in the fall B-747 on the Air France Cargo contract.

Hope you guys make it...:cool:

Need to Know Basis 11th November 2013 11:59

Not Good
 
Off and on for 7 years with EIA. very sad. I certainly learnt the trade and the job introduced me to so many other job avenues. Any one know if they were still giving the Per Diem for international of 48 USD ? that always made me laugh with Pot Noodles in hotel rooms try to survive.

SASless 11th November 2013 15:51

If there is any good in all this....let's hope Delford loses his own personal financial ass out of all this. Would love to see him standing in McMinnville Traffic with a cardboard sign in hand.

Lord knows he always played the hard ass with the folks he employed in the Helicopter Side of things. Karma can be so fickle sometimes!

Desert185 12th November 2013 13:52

From a friend. I don't know the source.

"CALL IT A WAR CASUALTY (OR LACK OF ONE), BUT ACCORDING TO REPORTS, EVERGREEN INTERNATIONAL WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, GROUNDING THE FLEET AND LAYING OFF 131 WORKERS.
MONIQUE GREGORY, EVERGREEN’S HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGER, WAS QUOTED IN THE OREGONIAN STATING IN A MEMO TO ALL THE AIRLINE’S EMPLOYEES THAT THE PRIVATELY HELD COMPANY WOULD END OPERATIONS ON NOV. 30.
“THE LOSS OF OUR COMPANY IS VERY UNFORTUNATE,” GREGORY WROTE.
“HOWEVER, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED EXCELLENT SERVICE DURING THIS ENDING PHASE.”
THE BIG QUESTION IN MCMINNVILLE, OREGON, A TOWN OF 33,000 ABOUT 30 MILES SOUTHWEST OF PORTLAND, IS WHETHER EVERGREEN’S NONPROFIT OPERATIONS—MAJOR TOURIST DRAWS CONCEIVED BY FOUNDER DELFORD SMITH—WILL SURVIVE. THE EVERGREEN WINGS & WAVES WATERPARK AND THE EVERGREEN AVIATION & SPACE MUSEUM OPENED A HALF DOZEN YEARS AGO, WITH HOWARD HUGHES SPRUCE GOOSE AS THE MAIN ATTRACTION.
THE 70,000-SQUARE-FOOT WATER PARK HAS BECOME A LOCAL LANDMARK, WITH A GIANT EVERGREEN B747-100 AIRCRAFT PERCHED ON THE ROOF."

Its an excellent museum worth the visit right across the highway from McMinnville (MMV) airport. The FBO has a loaner car for those who fly in.

sidman 12th November 2013 14:03

It is still $48.00 per day.

beerdrinker 12th November 2013 15:30

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Evergreen converted and now fly the 744 Guppy for Boeing. What is going to happen to that contract?

BD

WhaleDriver 12th November 2013 15:48

Atlas Air took over that operation years ago.

Need to Know Basis 13th November 2013 12:01

Per Diem
 
Unbelievable.....$48 per diem. It stopped buying you breakfast 5 years ago when you had to to GVA or anywhere in W. Europe ! I remember the Turkish 300F drivers laughing at it. They were at $100 a long time ago.

tdracer 13th November 2013 18:34


Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Evergreen converted and now fly the 744 Guppy for Boeing. What is going to happen to that contract?
The 747 Large Cargo Freighters (LCF), better know as 'Dreamlifters' were converted by an outfit in Taiwan working under Boeing direction and to Boeing developed drawings.

After STC, they were operated by Evergreen for a while but as WhaleDriver notes that contract was transferred to Atlas a while back (which now has a "Dreamliner Service Center" at Paine Field in Everett.

Del Smith threatened to sue Boeing for breach of contract when it happened, but I don't know if anything ever became of it.

BTW, I hope the museum in McMinnville survives OK :sad:

Desert185 14th November 2013 05:49

Just received this:

Contact:
Evergreen International Aviation
(503) 472-9361
[email protected]


McMinnville, Oregon -- November 8, 2013

As has been previously reported in the press, Evergreen's business has been adversely impacted over the past several years by decreased demand in military spending and weakness in global economic markets. Management has moved to aggressively address these challenges, including through the divestiture of businesses and assets and the significant reduction of secured debt. Evergreen is in discussions with its significant constituencies and is exploring available strategic alternatives with those constituencies. While Evergreen generally does not comment on market rumor or conjecture, rumors that a decision has been made to cease operations at this time are false. Evergreen remains committed to continuing to address the current business environment with its customers.

-Delford M. Smith
Chief Executive Officer,
Evergreen International Aviation

Need to Know Basis 14th November 2013 11:50

Just in ?
 
It has been on their website since last Friday the 8th ? The real rumour is that the doors will close 30th.

slowto280 20th November 2013 12:25

One of the original 'Supplementals'
 
Sad to hear the news, quite a few guys called it home. :sad:

Electra and 8 early 80's.

Sleeping Freight Dog 30th November 2013 03:50

So whats the latest. Did Evergreen Shut down today or not?
Did the remaining pilots get laid off?
I know 2 of their B747s were ferried to the desert for storage.

STN Ramp Rat 30th November 2013 07:48

fleet disposition
 
from www.flightaware.com


N779BA flew JFK-MZJ 23rd November presumed out of service
N491EV flew OSC-MZJ 27th November presumed out of service
N492EV flew a US military flight yesterday
N493EV flew WRI-RME on the 19th Nov. presumed out of service


the US military tend to award work on a calendar month basis so today may bring some news.

sidman 30th November 2013 21:02

N492EV is on its last flight now. The rest of the planes have been returned. Doors closing on the airline tonight. 492 will join the other planes.

JohnGalt 1st December 2013 21:05

RIP Evergreen
 
For all current and ex-Zoners, Rest in Peace.

The "Zone" provided many pilots a jumping stone and entree to the legacy carriers (UAL, NWA, CAL) and freight carriers (UPS, FedEx, Polar, Atlas) as a means to further their aviation career.

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TowerDog 2nd December 2013 14:38

Yup, EIA put me in Jets, went from DC-3s in the Caribe to DC-8s on the Air India Cargo contract. Enjoyed my 3 years with the zone. RIP :sad:

sidman 2nd December 2013 14:57

The last plane we had just flew SUU VCV to be parked.

Flying Mechanic 4th December 2013 11:40

That's really sad news , feel sorry for the people left with salaries owed, people who gave a lot to the company....can anyone save them, use the AOC?

NutLoose 26th December 2013 09:25

More news. Some of the comments are interesting reading.

Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum's future in doubt as creditors claim Spruce Goose, other planes | OregonLive.com

STN Ramp Rat 1st January 2014 20:09

Chapter 7 filing today
 
Evergreen Air Files Bankruptcy After Push For Payment - Bloomberg

Evergreen International Airlines Inc., a provider of air freight and transport services, sought bankruptcy protection yesterday two weeks after creditors asked a court to force the company to pay off debt.
The petition filed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Delaware, cited as much as $100 million in assets and as much as $500 million in debt.

Some creditors filed papers Dec. 17 in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Brooklyn, New York, seeking to force McMinnville, Oregon-based Evergreen to pay its bills, according to the Delaware petition. Also seeking Chapter 7 protection were affiliates including Supertanker Services Inc. and Evergreen Defense and Security Services Inc.
Evergreen provides air freight, maintenance and other services to air carriers, aviation companies, and governmental agencies worldwide using a fleet of Boeing 747s.
Last March, Erickson Air-Crane Inc. said it would buy Evergreen Helicopters Inc., with 64 aircraft, for $250 million.
The case is In re Evergreen International Airlines Inc., 13-bk-13363, U.S. Bankruptcy court, District of Delaware (Wilmington).
To contact the reporter on this story: Phil Milford in Wilmington, Delaware at [email protected]

Sleeping Freight Dog 1st January 2014 23:50

In addition, the Ground handling division EAGLE, shut down with out notice on 30DEC. Companies were left scrambling for ground, ramp, cargo handling in 35 cities including LAX, JFK, SFO, ORD and many more.

Private jet 3rd January 2014 12:02

Well that big wheel certainly does go round............

JetMech1953 4th January 2014 04:41

Well that took a while...
 
I worked for the outfit at both KIYA and KGLS for a while in the early 80's. Every quart of oil I needed to service the aircraft with or heaven forbid I needed a few Cherry-Lock rivets had to be approved by someone higher up the chain of finances. There were so many questions as to why we needed parts and supplies. It was an uncomfortable situation to be put in to say the least.


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