Saudia Cargo
 

Who is doing ACMI for SV cargo?

Air Atlanta? (Icelandic)

Yikes, I thought that "Saudia Cargo" was the new brand name for Air Atlanta :):)

AA appear to have more aircraft operating in SV Cargo colours than Saudi Arabian Airlines, who are also providing ACMI services. There is also a Turkish registered A310.

Mutt

Thanks for the info...

Evergreen has a 400F starting in Jan and another plane starting in June for SV cargo.

destinations
 

what are the destinations they will fly to

Jed-bru-jfk-iah-bru-ruh-dmm-shj-jed
Jed-los-jed
Jed-bru-jfk-iah-bru-dmm-jed
Jed-los-jed

Yep, N491EV showed up.

Sidman are you talking about the complete route structure, or just the structure for the EV 747?

Mutt

Apologies for the tailnumber confusion :O:O

N471EV is not a 400F though, in fact it is one of the oldest 200's around!

SSpotter is right... :D Must be pushing 150K hours by now...

N491EV is flying SV and those are the stations we're flying.
N471EV is still flying the line but is getting long in the tooth, probably will be one of the next bunch to retire.

That is just what N491EV is doing. It looks pretty good should get the SV decals on the plane by the end of the month.

Why have SV elected for an Evergreen machine? AAI not able to find an extra frame?

Less expensive, and perhaps...much better service.
AAI is but a shadow of its former self.

Yep,

471 EV going strong 38 years now..:ok: Del: April 1973 to World Airways

491 EV is a 412F , ex SIA Cargo

Happy ldgs in 2011 :)

Why are you always so bitter in your responses about Atlas?

Lets see now:

50 new Captain upgrades announced last month.
Hiring at a level from 1999
New airframes on order.
Passenger service in full operation and plans for more
Boeing LCF contract

Stock prices of the big ones as of yesterdays close:

AMR 8.10
UAL 25.50
DAL 12.50
UPS 72.80
FDX 93.10
AAWW 54.00

Does not look so bad to me! But what do I know, I've only been here 13 years.

Keep up the bad attitude, it serves you well.

FR8

I think 411A was talking about Air Atlanta Icelandic.

411A
 

For 411A :ugh: ,he will most likely shoot it down,facts are not an issue for him.
Atlanta has been unable to secure more 744 for Saudia.
Last year has been the most successful year in 20 year relationship between Saudia and Atlanta,up to 15 747 flying for Saudia,most likely half of them 744.
Hadj was a massive success.
Both companies plan to strengthen the relationship this year :D

have a good day

Strangely enough, it wasn't that long ago when AAI refused to do business with SVA........

Amazing how times change :)

Fr8Dog........ you should know 411A behavior at this stage.....

Mutt

come on Mutt :=
Happy New Year & safe trips!

@Fr8dog
411A still can't get around that he was fired after he almost burnt down an AAI Tristar :}

Inept codhead AAI mechanics who failed to show up as scheduled did the dirty deed.
Nothing much has changed I expect.
No surprise there....:}

Tft is correct, AAI has had a very good year.
Maybe watch this space.
J.O.

What was wrong with my statement?

Mutt

AAI
 

stop the debate about AAI NAC which is National Airlines Leased AAİ for DoD out of FRA and AAI is not the dependaple as it was once so F... them trust EV for SV OK C U

freeborn, you might be surprised to know that AAI have operated for SVA for about 20 years, and I believe that they were operating about 10 aircraft for them at the end of 2010.............. So they must be doing something right :ok:

As for EV..... it will be an interesting experiment, I wonder if they are ready for the local chaos :}

Mutt

We are here and ready to go just dealing with the local chaos now. We spent 6 years here with a cargo plane (N485EV) in the early 90's it is much different now. Some good but for the most part a slow go. We just want to get started sometime next week.. :)

Evergreen and the Hajj
 

I'm sure I remember Evergreen being in Jeddah for the Hajj and Teachers' movements back in '93 and '94 too, flying pax

freeborn , it looks that you don't have a clue about the lease deal between AAI and National Airlines :rolleyes: ( which is good :) )
You just make a fool of yourself :ok:

BTW, another 744 ( TF-ALF ) goes into ops for National shortly !

All the best wishes for a good start !

Thank You Sir!!!

Ev
 

For all of us ex Saudia crew that did fly for Saudia during the mid and late 90"s.
Evergreen gave us all countless numbers of Jump seats from JED to JFK through Brussels so we could get home to our family.

When the Saudia JFK flight did not match up with our ACM and our 6 block days off every month, Evergreen always helped us out with just a phone call, no questions asked.
Good on them for coming back there to Saudia.
Probably not many remember those days but some of us was happy they were there.

Sonny,

TF-ALF will come onto line when out of Heavy Mtc. but another 744 will be removed. All aircraft's to go back to the US upon certification.
There is no log term deal there.

The mismanagement by AAI is nothing new. They have a proven poor track record.

@KnightRyder
don't worry, nobody was talking about long term :ok:

BTW, if AAI would be really so bad like some of you think ( or better wish ), they wouldn't be in business anymore ;)

evergreen
 

did evergreen started the operation in saudi yet
anyone

Left today for BRU SV901...

The Turkish A310s are operated by ULS (ex Kuzu)

Congrats Sidman, heard/watched him depart...... but could you please put some logos on it.... :):)

Mutt

loadmaster
 

does anyone needs any loadmasters for the saudi ops for evergreen
anyone thanks

It should have all the logos by the end of the month...It will then look like one of the fleet..