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hvydriver 10th October 2009 12:51

Frisbee,

That is true. The point I was trying to make is that DPWN made the choice to organize DHL in the manner that they did. If they had left DHL's structure alone, then the extra costs would not have been a factor. I think we're both saying the same thing, but from different points of view. ;) The end result is the same though. I'm out of a job after flying 20 years for DHL.

Castaway2008 11th October 2009 09:00

As Flightmech says-FRAOPS will move to CGN-& I haven't heard of any additions to the fleet due to this move- It's the late flights that are affected-also for those of you who did not know the FX brand pre 1992 in Europe this is what served SNN & WAT ex BRU nightly-
Photo of Cessna 208 Caravan I, EI-FDX, Iona National Airways (IND) :)

Nitefrater 15th October 2009 06:12

"@ BBFive.

You are wrong. It is impossible for a European company to take cargo from let's say JFK to LAX. And that is because of protectionism on behalve of the usa.

And second, I would say about 350+ who are working for or EAT or DHL UK which are both completely owned by DHL

And by the way, when DHL was operating in the states, they were still employing americans.

It is just abnormal that fedex & ups are flying in europe with N-registered a/c & faa-crews. If the european union would get the same laws about cabotage as the states has , this would not be possible! Unfortunately the european union does not have the power yet to impose such laws. As here , those usa operators make agreements with individual contries.

There is an open-skies agreement in europe. but not in the states."


Actually, MrIkea, you might start with an ICAO refresher here: Freedoms of the air - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're comparing apples and oranges, in that the Freedoms of the Air are codified in treaties between and among COUNTRIES, not continents.

Note that the countries of the EU have signed a multilateral agreement to allow cabotage AMONG THEMSELVES, but that doesn't include the rest of the world. FedEx (using U.S. crews and N-registered aircraft) may pick up French origination freight in Paris and fly it to Germany (Frankfurt e.g.), but not to Marseilles. (5th freedom, but no 8th freedom)

To the rest of the world, there is no such thing as a "European Airline" (what's the registration letter for the EU again?). Rather there are airlines that belong to various European nations. Any of those airlines may operate in and through the U.S. on exactly the same terms as a U.S. airline may operate in and through that country (i.e. no cabotage).
It's not a case of the U.S needing to adopt EU cabotage laws. European nations once had the same cabotage laws as the U.S. but chose to cede their sovereignty on this (and other) issues.

Pagan_angel 16th October 2009 12:59


FedEx boosts Asia-Europe connectivity
http://www.worldacd.com/images/filler.gifhttp://www.worldacd.com/images/filler.gifHONG KONG, Oct 14 (WorldACD) - FedEx Express, a unit of FedEx Corp., has introduce a new next-business-day service connecting mainland China, Hong Kong and Singapore with France and Germany.

FedEx said with these initial indicators of an economic recovery, the service enhancement will provide a one-business-day transit time to Europe for FedEx International Priority shipments that originate from Hong Kong, Shanghai and Singapore destined for Frankfurt, Cologne and Paris, from Monday to Thursday.

The Asia-to- Europe air cargo market is expected to expand at an average annual rate of 6.5 per cent in the next two decades.



Are FedEx in Cologne already (Thought the hub was not built yet)? One business day from Asia sounds pretty zippy to me - are the boxes being thrown out of the planes with parachutes?:}

Flightmech 16th October 2009 13:30

There has been an MD11 "express freighter" (FX3) operating CDG-CGN-MEM for some time now.

Pagan_angel 16th October 2009 16:19

I guess the Asia volume is from CAN to CDG - then CDG-CGN-MEM as mentioned.... but I'm wondering what's being mixed into the jet fuel :} to give it that extra boost:).

J.I.P 22nd October 2009 18:02

New rumours and more info?
 
Lately I heard some new rumours about a company with A300's registered in Slovakia will operate on behalve of Fedex in Europe. Anyone knows if this is true?

I currently work outside the cockpit but inside the Air Cargo business and I see the amount of cargo increasing every day. How about your companies guys? I am especially interested in companyies flying the A300B4; DHL/EAT, MNG, ACT, Midex, Kuzu, etc etc...

Please let me know!
:ok:

3pointlanding 14th August 2012 18:35

FedEx is getting rid of the Airbus junk A310's and A-300-600's and the MD-10's. There are no B-4's. The company is getting a lot more 757's and a host of spanking new 767's. With the added 777's even the MD-11's are starting to look over their shoulder. With the cost of fuel and FAR Part 26, it is just getting too expensive to fly gas guzzling junk.

Flightmech 14th August 2012 20:02

FedEx European operation from cologne using A300B4's ??
 
Some of the A300-600s are fairly new. In fact we had the last one off the line I believe. Many of the 310s are already in the desert boneyard. Thats where the MD10s will be heading too. I don't think the MD11s are going anywhere for a while, in fact 5 ex Transmile airframes were added last year.

cedgz 16th August 2012 14:27

at this time CGN only have b757's,md11's and b777's, no scarebusses.
A300-600's fly out of cdg on short high density routes, ie MXP, STN-DUB, MAD, CPH
md11's will stay for a while, such as a300-600's
a310,b727 and md10 to VCV boneyard


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