good luck tay folks
 

Good luck tay folks, a few of my friends work there & times don't sound good presently

Situation TNT
 

Anyone who has some inside information about the situation at TNT at the moment. Are they hiring? Going to in the near future?

I'm intrested in the Long Haul operations...

Thanks in advance :ok:

From a contact at Air Atlanta, they've been told that they (Air Atlanta) have been awarded with a contract to fly a pair of their A300F's (possibly TF-ELF & TF-ELK) from LGG to EMA and BFS (possibly STN too) for TNT

The two A300's have recently been flying around in the Sandpit but the contract out there has recently ended & thus the aircraft being available for TNT to lease

FC

TF-ELK starts for TNT on the 4th Jan flying BFS-EMA-LGG-BFS. ELF will start in Feb flying Linate-LGG and also maybe LOS.

Good solution for TNT Airways SA management; they have succeeded in parking six very, very expensive and hopelessly under-utilised A300B4s (4 TNT and 2 Panair) in the desert and then replacing them with cheap AAI wet-leases.

No doubt the Belgian Cockpit Association will make their usual ineffectual protests.

Picture by "Bottie" of Airliners.be, shot only days ago;

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/126/tnta300.jpg

Are they subcontracting other companies than Air Atlanta to operate their A300 routes? Were those TNT A300s owned or leased?

"they have succeeded in parking six very, very expensive and hopelessly under-utilised A300B4s (4 TNT and 2 Panair) in the desert and then replacing them with cheap AAI wet-leases."

I fail to see the "down side" here? TNT are still (more robustly economically) in the flying business, and isn't that the raison d' etre?

I agree 7HD! That's TNT way of working. :oh: Half of the fleet are wet leases but they need planes anyway.

Regards!

Moving????
 

Heard from Rumour Control, TNT want to run down LGG op and move large part of the biz to Eastern Europe. Sounds of DHL copy cat again?

Do you really think they would do anything before the fusion with another big player ?
That rumour is on since ever.

And I'd like to see that an airport like LGG exist in eastern europe, i'm not so sure ...
(very good road net in the middle of europe cargo center, future high speed train connections to other hubs, open 24/7, ...)

They invested recently (less than 2 years ago) to double to hub capacity in LGG, 95 millions euro.
Now, who knows ...

TNT have stopped investing in LGG and whether there will be any in the future is very much an open question.

Several 737 leases will also expire this year and there is a good probability that they will not be renewed but that the work and jobs will be outsourced. Don't be surprised if more jobs are disappearing this year as the company "rightsizes".

They invested 2 years ago and since then it's the crisis, so it's hard to tell what's going on. I guess we have still too much of uncertainty to see new investment, there or anywhere else.

My bet is that nothing is gonna happen before they get bought by some bigger player.

Look at what happened to DHL in BRU.
Main european hub moved to eastern germany, lots and lots of $$$
Could happen to LGG

Of course, anything can happen.

But in your example, there is 2 important point :
- DHL *had* to leave because of a political decision in Belgium : reducing night flight in BRU
- DHL is now german and they like to work from german soil

No-one is relocating anywhere else.

Welcome to aviation
 

welcome to aviation. There is a lot of rumours in aviation but in the end most of them are not becoming true. I' ve been flying for TNT for years and I can tell you that nobody knows what's going to happen.

Keep moral high enough to fly safely. The future will come anyway and we were not able to do nothing, but accept it. Decisions are made by bean counters and CEO. :ugh:

Regards!

You have a point. Skystar.
 

But you need to have at least one eye on what's occurring elsewhere and how your gang is doing relative to the others. In this case, TNT was way ahead of the opposition.

Your gang has, just by dint of those bean counters etc, been pretty savvy about where they fly, and with what, and how often.

It's going to keep your ass in that seat, so just suck it up and get on with it. The business isn't reliant upon the operation, simply vise versa.

I suspect you know little of what is going on at TNT Airways 7HD.

Apparently the last 6 months of decisions was taken in a bit of a panic and now capacity have to be restored by taking on contractors. Not always at a lower rate.

On top of that moral seems to have suffered as crews seems to have been treated as not worthy of trust or even been fed false information in an effort of control.

In any case I have heard many tales of patronizing management and crews who are sick to the back teeth.

The next six months should be interesting.

I agree "Outsider". 7HD knows a little more than us. Let's see what going to happen in the next months.

They have put a lot of pressure above pilot's shoulders and now is time for management movement.

Regards!!

TNT Airbus A300B4-203F Fleet Contribution.
 

I have been informed over this last week that TNT parked its final Airbus A300 'Classic' Freighter @ MHV in December 2009. Recently Air Atlanta Icelandic Airbus A300-605F aircraft began appearing on the LGG-BFS weeknight rotation which operates via EMA. There appear to be two aircraft operated in a plain white c/s and I for one will miss the aircraft they replace, a common sight @ EMA since 2001.

At the moment there is only one AAI A300-600 operating for TNT on the BFS-EMA-LGG-EMA-BFS run. The second aircraft is due to join TNT around the 21st of this month based in LIN, doing LIN-LGG-LIN sectors. regards clive.

Hi Fellows,

I heard of a rumour about three 767's coming to TNT. Is that true?

Thanks!

The fact that you have heard about it, probably means that there is no truth to it.


-And what would they need them for?

Wrong!!
There are currently three ABX 767's on contract to TNT flying from Liege to the states and back.

I know of one ABX 76 for sure where are the other two??? The same 76 flies the run 5 days a week. On ocassion there is another charter out of LGG.
BBfive

ABX 767 was flying for CAL also (but not anymore it seems)

What of the 744 operation?

you can have the schedule online
.:: TNT Airways ::.

Thanks everyone for the answers. As I thought, another rumour which is not true.

I've never seen more than ABX 767 flying for TNT. I think they usually fly LGG-JFK-LGG route.

Regards and happy landings.

STN defunct
 

Considering they closed STN Tech' services & made a bunch of great folks redundant I wouldn't expect too much to be occuring this side of the channel
(allegedly):=:confused:

ABX just picked up TNT run Stanstead- Leige- Stanstead starting next week.

other rumours are talking about Liege-Manchester-Liege with a 767 (ABX ?)
and a new Liege-India link

Can't see Manchester being true given they already have an A300 to EMA!

Tnt B747
 

Nieuwsblad Transport - TNT versterkt vrachtvloot met extra B747
Sorry, in Dutch...
This is about bringing in a third B747 on China-Europe service (Liege Belgium).
Regards.

TNT purchased two 767-200 aircraft which will be converted to freighters, they took an option on two more. Belgian CAA are currently certifying the planes. They will go online this summer and will be used on the East Midlands, Stansted, New York and Helsinki routes. The next two will be used to develop South American routes. Sao Paulo is rumoured to be a new destination when 767 #3 and #4 come online.

zevensixseven's!
 

That's good news. Really hope they are going to make some more business this year...(recruitement?) :ooh:

re:
 

767-200 on the line towards south america ?
can somebody tell me how they can make profit with such flights?

a 767-200/ER can only take 40 tons of cargo on a flight of 6h30

my thoughts are that they wil go via Dakar for refeuling ?

so lets take 10 hrs enroute , included the stop at dakar ... with only 40 tons ?

if it was a 767-300ERF i would say yes but with a 767-200 ????

ken

Mafferick

When your cargo pays you 30 bucks a kilo, you can fly whatever equipment.

Hello,

Initially the first B767 will be used on the LGG-EMA-BFS route
The second will be on the LGG-JFK route (and replace the ABX 767)
The third maybe should be used on the LGG-LIN or LGG-HEL route, or maybe Sao Paulo but there's nothing confirmed on the 3rd aircraft.
The aircrafts would also be available for charters for other costumers during days or week ends.

It's not yet sure if they will be registered in Belgium, as the Belgium CAA is not very fast in registering aircrafts, but they are intended to be flown by their belgian crews.

Unions and management have reached an agrement, and will ask to pilots to work more (around 2 days/month) so they will not need to hire new pilots to fly the first 2 767s, internal promotion will be enough
Intially the 767s will be flown by Parc or freelance pilots, to give time to TNT to train their own pilots.

Cheers