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Morton Harket 26th October 2007 22:27

DHL/EAT Brussels interview, need INFO!!!
 
Hi Folks,

I am about to attend an interview at EAT for F/O position in the next days. Cause there is only very few info concerning this assessment within the web, I'd like to request you to post here some info that may help me.

They said, there are psychotechnical tests followed by an interview. If positive, SIM screening takes place next day.

I would find it very helpful to get some info about:

-What is included within this tests?
-What is asked in the interview(other than general interview stuff)?
-What is the program within the Sim session for a non-rated pilot?

Also interested in info concerning atmosphere within the company, roster, payscale, pay during training.

Knowing, that working conditions at EAT have been discussed controversely in the past, what do you think about joining and working for EAT these days?

Thank you all very much in advance for your replies, any tip and info is highly appreciated.

-Morton

latetonite 27th October 2007 01:39

I think they want to check YOUR knowledge, not ours...:p

Min Drag 27th October 2007 20:56

Latetonite, why do people like you have to be obstructive and offensive when someone asks a reasonable question? :ugh:
Morton, I can't tell you about the interview, T's & C's etc but working closely alongside them I do know that morale is not good and that many have left

latetonite 27th October 2007 21:24

Min Drag. I was trying to be a bit humoristic. No offence to the original poster. That you call me an rshole after a reasonable ten word sentence, hints me it is not only your drag that is at minimum.
End of this discussion. Fly safe.

Lemper 29th October 2007 08:02

A candid kid asks a candid question, and right on, two "seniors" start biting off each other noses. Nice!
Morton, i have some friends in DHL who are applying in TNT, coz the general atmosphere there is way better.

KwikFly 30th October 2007 12:34

Morton, don't worry about the interview. All they want to hear is that you won't leave as soon as you find something better (a real headache for them).
The sim ride is in the A300 or B757 simulator; a bit of general flying and an ils app raw data, and a 1eng out approach. Make sure you trim the rudder. Good luck!

euroflyer 30th October 2007 17:15

Better atmosphere at TNT?:ugh:
Yeah right! That's why the chief pilot, head of training and other senior pilots resigned recently...
The atmosphere is certainely not better!

Lemper 31st October 2007 13:23

Euroflyer, are you flying for TNT, that you seems so sure of what you say?

Clarence Oveur 31st October 2007 13:39

Euroflyer, you strike me as a contrarian-glass-is-half-full-wet-behind-the-ears-not-working-for-TNT kind of guy.

Nobody has gone from TNT to DHL. It's all one-way traffic in the other direction. That should tell you something.

euroflyer 31st October 2007 14:16

Call me what you want, it seems some people can never accept certain facts...but if TNT senior management pilots resigned recently then I am sure things at TNT are not that great...and certainely not better than at DHL
But if I had to choose between the two, I know who it would be!

Clarence Oveur 31st October 2007 15:18


Originally Posted by euroflyer
...it seems some people can never accept certain facts...

Quite!

It would seem that all you know is that certain people have resigned. They have not resigned from the company, but from the management positions they held. I doubt very much you have any idea of the motives behind these resignations, yet you do seem to make certain assumptions as to why.

From these assumptions you concluded that things at TNT "are not that great" and are "certainely not better than at DHL". Well, that certainly comes across as an admission, that things are far from dandy at DHL.

Your knee-jerk defence of your company is quite sweet, albeit somewhat naive. If it was based on anything other than assumptions, it might even have been worth listening to.

Lemper 1st November 2007 04:27

I just enquired about those resignations, from first hand.
D.O, TRG. MGR, chief pilots 747 and 737, gave six months notice of resignation from their function in order to go back and enjoy the line flying after having served a term they deem long enough. They keep their TRI/TRE status and functions and will assist and support the people replacing them.
Bad atmosphere hey!

euroflyer 1st November 2007 10:01

Obviously all proud of working for TNT, good for you, who wouldn't protect his current airline...
I do not work for either company but have in the past and have many friends flying for both airlines, so I stay in touch with what's going on.
Stating pilots are leaving from DHL to TNT does not reflect the current situation as in the last 3 years I only can count 3 or 4 who have.
In any case, some people are very happy at DHL too so I wouldn't make such an assumption.
Happy flying

Lemper 1st November 2007 19:23


...I do not work for either company but have in the past and have many friends flying for both airlines,....
:hmm:Maybe they want to make sure you do not join their airline....:yuk:

euroflyer 1st November 2007 22:03


I just enquired about those resignations, from first hand.
D.O, TRG. MGR, chief pilots 747 and 737, gave six months notice of resignation from their function in order to go back and enjoy the line flying after having served a term they deem long enough. They keep their TRI/TRE status and functions and will assist and support the people replacing them.
Yeah, did they also tell that it was with a major 747 airline based in HKG offering jobs based in europe. Guess who?
Lemper, open your eyes mate and stop dreaming.
For info, was approached by your airline but politely declined the below average european package!

Lemper 2nd November 2007 02:41

Good for you, and probably good for them too!

Clarence Oveur 2nd November 2007 10:03


Originally Posted by euroflyer
...was approached by your airline...

I am curious. Why would TNT approach someone with 3 years of experience, when there are people much more experienced sending applications?

Anyhow, it's more than 4 who have left DHL for TNT. I do not include those who applied and where evaluated in that number.

I'll leave you to speculate as to how many that would be, as speculating seems to be your thing.

euroflyer 2nd November 2007 15:09

Yes, I hear they employ lots of ab-initios...:bored:
I didn't have time to count the exact number in the last few years but it certainely isn't a lot.
This is getting boring...:zzz:

Clarence Oveur 2nd November 2007 15:25


Originally Posted by euroflyer
This is getting boring..

Certainly is. If you had anything constructive to contribute, you would have informed Morton Harket of what he asked, instead you chose to dump on a company you know nothing about.

haltonapp 2nd November 2007 16:26

There is a measure of distrust of the management at EAT, the lack of information as to the effects of the move to LEJ being the major cause of discontent. They must have a plan however they seem reluctant to tell us! Nearly all the people who have left EAT for TNT have been French speakers, and EAT is a Flemish company in Flanders, and TNT ain't! TNT certainly does not have the route variety and for a low hours F/O the flying hours will not increase at the same rate. Pays your money and take your chance! Ultimately, it would appear that the response of the Belgian government to the complaints from the airlines that their "social" costs are too high and so cannot afford to pay the going "rate" and retain their workforce may have an influence on pay.

Everyone, in every airline, have a moan about their management, I sometimes wonder what makes all airline management appear so bad, perhaps they just hate aircrew!!


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