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SaulGoodman 24th Feb 2020 08:25

Impact corona virus on air cargo.
 
What is the impact of the corona virus on the Air Cargo Business? General freight / express / charters etc?

Are there companies who are benefiting? Charters come to mind, but also backlog of cargo that is not flying with the PAX airlines.

Will certain companies go down due to the corona virus coming on top of the downward trend of load factors / yields?

SaulGoodman 12th Mar 2020 04:02

Air cargo exempt from travel ban USA. Moneymaker for all cargo airlines?

deltahotel 12th Mar 2020 07:47

Depends whether the cargo is ok but the pilots are not if they have been in Schengen within 14 days.

SaulGoodman 12th Mar 2020 07:49

Does it also apply to pilots? I thought PAX only...

deltahotel 12th Mar 2020 08:57

Because pilots don’t catch a virus? I’m guessing the first question to be asked on arrival will be ‘have you been in a Schengen country in the last 14 days? You have? Stay airside sir/ma’am’.

SaulGoodman 12th Mar 2020 11:51


Originally Posted by deltahotel (Post 10711025)
Because pilots don’t catch a virus? I’m guessing the first question to be asked on arrival will be ‘have you been in a Schengen country in the last 14 days? You have? Stay airside sir/ma’am’.

300 pax or 3 crewmembers is a big difference in acceptable risk assessment.

deltahotel 12th Mar 2020 14:05

The full text of Trump’s announcement seems to exempt holders of a C1/D visa. Phew!

dusk2dawn 13th Mar 2020 08:24

https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject...nts-1842280740

Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.
(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:
...

(vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C-1, D, or C-1/D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew;
...

Banana Joe 13th Mar 2020 08:32

How did feight dogs pull through during the Gulf War, 9/11 and the 2008 financial crisis?
I'm new to the game, but it looks like they did ok. All these bans, at least for now, are not affecting our operation in the network. The restrictions apply to crew members that during the layover are locked in their hotel room for some "me-time" in one destination, and live accordingly to the restrictions in place in other countries.
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deltahotel 13th Mar 2020 08:49

The big boom in air freight has been in the last 20 years, so the biggest potential impact was really 2008 and the GFC. We just kept going. Volumes were down, but the network kept going and came out of it ok. Pay rises after that were non existent for a few years but then it got better. I can only speak for my own airline, but we lost no ac and no one lost their jobs.

dixi188 13th Mar 2020 08:56

I imagine DHL's Bergamo hub is shut down.

deltahotel 13th Mar 2020 09:21

Still running. No layovers.

EAM 13th Mar 2020 11:25

Well, there is of course a huge impact on Air Cargo, Volumes are going down massively, specially in Asia, Cargologic and Air Cargo Global shut down already and I am sure others are struggling.
For those airlines which are already fighting to survive, this could be the killer.
The advantage for DHL is, its not just Air Cargo which makes only a part of their business, there is much more.
It will be interesting to see how it will continue, we have multi national crews and some Italiens have already been refused to enter on their destination, that might be an issue in the next few weeks
for even more nationalities.

dabssa 13th Mar 2020 12:27

The loads in Asia have been fantastic. Every flight seems to be almost max payload.

EAM 13th Mar 2020 16:35

Yes its taking up again in Asia, but DHL had quite a few cancelations in Dezember and January.

Strela 20th Mar 2020 15:04

Cargo operators
 
Dear Colleagues,

Cargo still continues to fly but until when ? What are your thoughts? More and more hotels keep closing and for contractors especially it will become difficult to operate without facilitating crews. I just wonder what would be an alternative an how we would survive this?

GKOC41 20th Mar 2020 15:34

Cargo Airlines are being hit by corona restrictions if they get off and night stop. Latest is no walk rounds allowed at some ME destinations.

Banana Joe 20th Mar 2020 15:41

Governments should make sure hotels are open at least for cargo aircraft crew. The other option is to reverse the roster have day stops in your base. Clearly the first option would be best.

Pistonprop 20th Mar 2020 16:00

And the sad truth IMHO is that all these restrictions and so-called lock downs are basically a waste of time. Why? Because 100% lock down for a decent period of time is impossible, just like 100% security around an airport.

ZAZ 20th Mar 2020 16:46

FR24 show many inbound to Victoria cant all be freighters. Domestic red eyes and international. 0300 local time?


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