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Puck2 12th Mar 2011 12:49

Avient looking for info
 
I may have a job with Avient in the future, anybody want to share some info? Good or bad

Dengue_Dude 12th Mar 2011 13:07

I left them because I considered them unsafe - maintenance wise. Fans of Photoshop . . .

Management is acutely autocratic. It is not unknown to 'hang the messenger'.

Even operating into Afghanistan, when I asked whether we were insured or not, I only ever got one response 'Andrew will look after you'. Ask the surviving pilot of the MD11 crash in Shanghai how well Andrew looked after him.

BUT, they pay flightcrew on time (or did when I was there). There was (then) plenty of flying, but operating old aircraft (the DC10), at maximum ZFW into Africa, in the dark to some dodgy airports is statistically more hazardous than other types of operation.

It would be wise to consider it VERY carefully. It will pay the mortgage whilst you look for something else.

Best of luck.

CR2 12th Mar 2011 14:23

DD

All else aside, what is wrong with flying MZFW?

(20+ years 74F)

Dengue_Dude 12th Mar 2011 23:38

Underperforming engines, up to 3% short of required N1, temp limiting out of SHJ etc.

Sods law states you'll lose one of the good ones and the remain 1.5 engines will take you to the scene of the accident.

These problems (and a host of others) are all attributable to 'mis-handling' by the crew . . .

SO, if it's ONLY max ZFW, then no problem because the performance is predicated on losing the critical engine - I'm at peace with that.

411A 13th Mar 2011 00:36


...temp limiting out of SHJ etc.

Hardly surprising, in that area in the summertime.:rolleyes:

Dengue_Dude 13th Mar 2011 08:05

Not surprising they're temp limiting - agreed, especially at 45-50°C.

Surprising when one or more of the engines cannot achieve rated thrust at that ambient temperature (from the ODM) by up to 3%N1, which is a lot of power NOT to have.

Performance predicated on achieving ODM rated thrust at that temp and pressure.

. . . I know, I bit, but not everyone here understands exactly what was being said.

TheChitterneFlyer 13th Mar 2011 08:15

It's also not uncommon to find a temperature inversion at SHJ/DXB and that turning and climbing at the same time isn't an option!

TCF

liegetrucker 18th Mar 2011 02:09

Scene of the crash
 

Ask the surviving pilot of the MD11 crash in Shanghai how well Andrew looked after him.
"Andrew" send him quick back to USA then pretend he don't exist. Then "Andrew" tell rest of world in public that accident was his fault. Nice man that "Andrew".


Surprising when one or more of the engines cannot achieve rated thrust at that ambient temperature (from the ODM) by up to 3%N1, which is a lot of power NOT to have.
Absolute correct. And no forget the email from suck-up nazi manager at your time that said you would be disciplined if you exceeded EGT limit on take-off. Old DC10 engines rebuilt in reputable Pakistani kebab shop with no spare expensed don't make rated thrust easy. EGT no help when end runway approach. You need more N1. So engineer save his bacon (and crew's to) by pushing levers forward to get calculate performance target. You remember also crews blamed by "Andrew" for 'bending the blades' by descending too fast? Ridiculous.


It will pay the mortgage whilst you look for something else.
Absolute correct.

Zeflo27 20th Mar 2011 19:07

How come there're 2 X Dengue Dudes now? Just out of curiosity.

411A 20th Mar 2011 20:03


How come there're 2 X Dengue Dudes now? Just out of curiosity.
Might not be the same...note the original has a space between words.
Suspect it's a clone.

flite idol 21st Mar 2011 01:39

Thats exactly what a clone would say:ok:

Dengue_Dude 21st Mar 2011 12:58

Yes it is isn't it.

Guess what, the cookie at work is still there and I've managed to recover my password.

So you're subjected to me or me now. . .

flite idol 21st Mar 2011 13:05

Well its good to have you both here! ;)

Dengue_Dude 21st Mar 2011 22:30

We would both like to thank you for your kind words.

Dengue_Dude and his well-known sidekick DengueDude ;)

fergineer 22nd Mar 2011 00:43

Is the world ready for two of you though DD

Dengue_Dude 22nd Mar 2011 12:41

If you take guidance from my spouse (and you've met her), she'd say she's been living with both of me for years :ok:

Hope all is 'quiet' up your neck of the woods. The aftershocks hopefully are easing off a bit around Lincoln where our daughter lives.

We're both grandads too!

Enough . . .

fergineer 22nd Mar 2011 20:10

Can safely confirm the identity of DD either of you is still welcome here mate.

Puck2 23rd Mar 2011 09:17

Thanks for the advice, regards Puck2

Puck2 23rd Mar 2011 09:36

Avient
 
About the OO- AOC, I've heard they are going to register ONE Md 11 on OO registration and other aircraft still registated with the Zimbabwe registration. It all has to do with the crew duty time, apparently you can work longuer hours with the Z reg. Zimbabwe gouvernment does not correct their working hours for the time that you report for work. In other words, when you show up at midnight for duty, you can still work for 18 hours crewduty.

Dengue_Dude 23rd Mar 2011 12:51

Yes that's true. A lesson in flexibility I would say.

We had big issues about CDT when I was there and 'they' relented . . . just a little bit, as we had a CP with cojones. Quite soon afterwards he left and went to an airline.

If I were a cynic, I would probably say dispensation from the ZCAA is directly proportional to the size of the brown paper package he's clutching - rumour was that it contained his lunch . . . he was probably very hungry.

But since I'm not a cynic, I won't. ;)


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