That's right up there with:

Budweiser is the #1 selling beer in the U.K.

:ok:

No, the first 2 go to GSS. The company officially announced that last year. The rest might go to Titan, but I dont have any hard evidence of that yet.

Titan is the lessor
 

The airplanes that are leased to GSS will be leased through Titan. That's why they exist. As far as the following -8s, whoever finds customers first will get the next ones (Atlas or Titan).

The same story has the GSS 400s coming back to Atlas once they get the -8s. Again all hearsay. Who knows what tomorrow holds.

VP Ops says they're in addition to -400's. Of course, this was prior to the economic problems.
bpp

From the company 19 747-400's and 4 classics; although they are operating seven right now. They didn't give a time frame on the parkings but I can only assume it's with the result of the furloughs. These numbers DO NOT include the 400's flying for AABO but the total 400 fleet is Polar and Atlas combined.

DD, Do you mean GSS aren't included. AABO does not operate their own planes.

dumbdumb,

What airplanes flying for AABO? If you are talking about the GSS airplanes they are not flown by AABO pilots??

I guess I need to clarify . . . the numbers I posted are for the Polar/Atlas fleet. I don't know the numbers doing any other flying.

Sure got quiet after the announcement on the 8th on AABO.

ditto
 

I was thinking the same thing. I think everybody is in a state of shock on both sides. I honestly did not think that it would happen, but the political pressure must have reached critical mass.

I just completed my final pattern today.

AABO....What announcement?

Terminated
 

Apparently, AABO pilots were terminated effective this month. I was told this personally by one of the pilots that dead headed on my leg.

I am a new pilot, 15 months, at Atlas, so I don't want to get into the politics of it all. I liked flying with the many of the AABO pilots, but it seems that they were on borrowed time. I have listened to all sides of the story over the last year, and I am actually sympathetic to all parties.

It was a bad move by management from the get go, and now it has been set straight, but not without hurting many people in the process.

There is a serious lack of leadership at Atlas Air, which is really sad because it is a great company in so many ways. I hope to be back to work soon, but who knows?

KEY EXECUTIVE ............................................................ ..............Pay
Mr. William J. Flynn, 55 - Chief Exec. Officer, Pres ............................$1.98M
Mr. Jason Grant, 37 - Chief Financial Officer and Sr. VP......................$641.00K
Mr. John Dietrich, 44 - Chief Operating Officer and Exec. VP ...............$1.11M
Mr. Adam Kokas, 38 - Chief HR Officer, Sr. VP, Sec. and Gen. Counsel ..$730.00K
Mr. Jeffrey H. Erickson, 64 - Sr. Advisor......................................... $66.00K

Scource - Yahoo Finance - about AAWW

L38
That was a serious lack of leadership, not a serious lack of compensation.

L-38
 

Thanks for posting that.

I am sure these numbers do not reflect Expenses, Executive Perks, Company car, Retention Bonuses, Performance Bonuses, Golden Parachute packages, etc. Who says there is no money in aviation.

Compared to the five million annually paid to Rick Schuyler during his reign, this is paltry. Rick made more than the CEO of Boeing.

After seeing how Atlas Air Worldwide has navigated the recent economic mess and still paid profit sharing, Mr. Flynn and his team certainly seem to be well worth his pay.

I wonder if the pilots at other carriers who are supposed to be holders of the brass ring feel?

I've noted that the past obvious AABO guys are silent. What became of the April meeting in STN with their chief pilot on their (AABO) situation. Any reputable details rather than rumours from on the line?

Wow...the silence is deafening!

In this case I think silence, or at least an avoidance of rumor mongering, is appropriate.

A lot of unfortunate things are happening to a lot of good people in this industry at the moment, and none of us should take any satisfaction in any of it.