Depends if you are talking about the same thing. The facts are with EAT that A300 crews based in LEJ have not been made redundant whereas other A300 crews with greater seniority but non-LEJ based have been made redundant.
Edit: I should add I'm talking about pilots-I'm not sure what the basing was of the 8 FEs.

LEJ based fired it was a mistake
 

The 3 FE LEJ Based Fired the first week of Feb,were fired by Managment Mistake,but it is to late to recovery:*

The latest from the office is that they might return one A300 to service in May. Has anyone else heard that one? Anyone know how they'll crew it after dumping the crew?

Hmm, strange,I heard the opposite. 2 More A300 might be grounded as from may on if the economical situation is not getting better. That will bring us back to the level of about 3 years ago. Well lets wait and see.

Well, if they really going to get one back in service then I see a bigger plan behind it: First they fire 24 crew members due to 2 A300 going away. In the meantime the people coming at the bottom of the list in Bru ask for Lej base and a little bit later they return one A300 and ask the people that were fired to come back but Lej based:sad:. This is just a theory but watch out, still a cheap way of getting more people Lej based.:ugh:

Dengue Dude, Sorry to hear that you have been let go by the company......are you still headuing off on your hols or have they been put on hold......regards
Fergi

Fergi
 

Sorry mate the world is FUBAR and it's obviously rippling down. Irony is I left previous company for EAT for job security. There must be a lesson there ... Somewhere!

There will always be another time, I am not going anywhere..............hope it all turns out ok..............b4 you know it you will be back in the thick of it.

Lose 2 A300, one comes back. This is so confussing. All I want is to keep my job. Seems like B757 going to DHK was BS rumour put out by guys at DHK. You would think they would have more care for their fellow pilots in trouble.

Does anyone know about last months results?

I am thinking of going to the LEJ base at least for a couple of years, as I am getting closer to the door in BRU every day.

Lets hope the cargo numbers picked up in Feb otherwise I will make the LEJ move.

eurotranspilot

There are as many rumours coming from EAT and DHK, it is most of it speculation, always the case in aviation when things are not going very well..
A lej base would not be a bad move if you can accept the commuting and accomodation but don't take decisions like that too quickly as they could affect the rest of your career.. that would be my advice..

@ eurotranspilot...

I wouldn't take a decision like that too quickly... As far as we know we are relatively ok at the moment. According to most station managers loads are increasing again... And if you have a good look at the loads we carry these days on the A300 , they aren't too bad...

For now they even refused a f/o who wanted to go lej-based his decision... so my advice is wait and see. You could as mentioned before ruin the rest of your "career" with eat.

The fact that they only have 2 f/o's lej-based and aren't/having been recruiting activly lej-base says enough...

Anyway just my two cents :)

So current situation, 4 busses on ground, 1 in repair for the damage on the wing, 4 more to go, rumour, but gonna have more info on this soon.

From the latest, 4 more to go seems VERY unlikely. 2 seems a more optimistic/pessimistic correct number.

By the end of may we will know more...

4 On the grond (1 in rosswel already) and as far as I know the damaged one has been fixed.

re:
 

Hi all,

The move from brussels to liepzig took them into big losses .
what we hear at brussels is an integration of dhl into aerologic ....

lets wait and see ...

ken

The announcement is the result of the special workcouncil requested by the unions. They are asking some clarification concerning the current situation and to clear some rumours.

Since I was already made redundant, I feel for you guys in EAT. It must be a really difficult time for everybody and morale plummets at times like this.

It is much easier for me as the 'deed is done' and the guesswork is over.

I've got another job, not flying but a professional post where my knowledge of aviation is valued.

My point is this, there is life AFTER redundancy, it's easy to be SO focussed on whether you are going to get 'hit', it is possible to forget that life goes on afterwards.

If EAT ring up when all this is over, the answer will be 'thanks, but no thanks'.

Good luck.

Glad to hear that you have found employment Dengue its not too hard to get out of the flying game......the mney is a lot less but its a pleasure to know what you are doing in the days to come instead of the lack of that in the flying world. 6 years outsided now, new country and less stress.......loving every minute of it too.

Announcement
 

First big announcement today: The CEO got sacked.
Second big announcement today will be after the works council meeting.
Most probably further cutbacks of airlift capacity and signific:ooh:ant job cuts.:eek:

Sorry to display ignorance here, but which CEO are you referring to?

CEO of EAT in Brussels:}

That's now about 60 people gone and this company is still not compliant with EU FTLs. Wonder what the competition thinks about that?

more stupid questions
 

Sorry, but I'm going to express some more ignorance from the states. What do you mean by "EU FTL's"

Which side of the DHL house are these dismissals coming from, EAT or DHLUK ? When you say "dismissal", are you saying they are fired with no rights to recall as in "furloughed" as we understand it here in the states?

Thanks in advance,
boingdrvr

Yes boingdrvr, that is how it usually happens over here in Euroland You get 'made redundant', are given a very small severance package and retain no rights to further employment with tyhe company when things improve. At the moment the cuts are from EAT.
The EU introduced a new Flight Time Limitation scheme in July last year. EAT have not implemented them, using various delaying tactics. These will result in more crews being required to operate the schedules, so it is highly dubious that they are laying crews off while not being compliant with EU law!
Hope this answers your queries.

WB, truly sorry to hear that the DPWN plague has reached even Europe. If the stronghold of DHL isn't safe, then nothing is. I hope it works out for all of you. Good luck!

Thanks Wheelbarrow.

I see what you and other posters mean by DHL's non-compliance. Here in the States "non-compliance" is "business as usual" for DHL.

I hope things turn around for you guys and DHL realizes that they are just spitting in the wind. On this side of the pond we gave up holding our breaths waiting for that to happen a while back.

Cheers.

Strike
 

Hellooooooo
might be time to do something. No ????????????

What is your suggestion?

Any other suggestions on a self addressed postcard to:

EAT
Brussels Airport
Zaventum

Strike for your rights!
What sissies are you guys?!?!

Anyone see todays webcast?

Any new info?

I missed it, got the time wrong.

A300boy
 

Director of Ops said not much progress between the crew reps and the management made but discussions on going. Union want to enter negotiation phase now to give more time to get a deal for affected staff members but company are not receptive to this idea.

For God's sake why doesn't the Union call a strike?! At least all affected EAT pilots should get the chance to move to DHL-Air UK.
Get negotiations going to fly the LEJ-IST with an OO- registered A300 instead of having to use MNG. (TNT also uses its own equipment)

auto throttle
 

The Essex Autothrottle

Whatever happened to the EssexAutothrottle?

This was a brilliant piece of kit fitted to the last A/C I flew for a living.

It was voice activated, and had a wide range of functions, not all of which were always fully appreciated by pilots.

Technology moved on however, and I guess the supposed advantages of computers made this kit uneconomic. However it saved engines and airframes from abuse in ways that computers never could, but the bean counters would never have figured that out.
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Join union
 

Adress it to Beca instead and join. The more we are the srongest we will be.

A300
 

Another airbus will be removed from the fleet.
4 iso 3 as earlier enounced.
Bad news doesn't stop.

Down to 10 A/C.
Rumours of 6 by Christmas.