Not as far as I know.
Please develop a bit if you know something more in case you know something.

Hi All,

Anybody know how these guys are currently doing? We heard they had difficulties in TIP recently? Are they doing Schedule flights yet to China?

Appreciate any update, as have some guys looking to apply as F/O??

:ok:

Got some mail from their GSA today about planned flights HHN-BEY-DXB and HHN-MFM-HKG over this weekend. BEY/DXB seems to be regular weekly flt on Saturdays. No idea about load-factor on these

ACG
 

How are these guys doing?

OB

For info this bird was in Macau on the 18th of September when I flew in.

Flights planned for next week HHN-ALA-PVG + HHN-DXB-PVG
As if it wasn´t enough capacity on Europe-PVG already available.

dear cargodus. please tell us what they are flying from HHN via DXB to PVG??

Fuel and crew :sad:

Exactly my thoughts:D

like cargo-b? look at it from the bright side, if on and off no other store would open in your village life would get predictable, wouldn't it? let's see what these guys are made off. give em a year and a half and then see what the grapevine says. brgds marvin happy

Fuel & Crew
 

....I seem to remember a certain senior CargoB manager in BRU being interviewed in the flemish press about the sky high fuel price in mid 2008, if I remember correctly, he claimed that they could still make money with a crude oil price of $135/barrel operating B747 classics???

Perhaps volumes/yields were better then than the current market, however even at the time I considered this "wildly optimistic"!!!

I would like to know what type of pocket calculator he was using....I will put one on my Christmas list :)!

Best of luck to all at ACG, hopefully we may have turned the corner economically speaking.

Fully agree. But this was predictable. One hasn't to be an Einstein to expect it.

one of their birds was in Doha this morning , to and from where I dont know

May the farce be with you

Daft Wader

:ok:

Good, that we have economical experts like you hetfield :ok:

I fly for ACG and if the business (hopefully) continues as it does at the Moment, you will hear the callsign "Loadmaster" a few years more.

I won´t post payload and other details... but let me put it this way. ACG is doing pretty well. Better than we all expected.

I know that payloads don't mean anything. Guess what I ment by saying "other details"...

@snoopy

Time will tell....

I give ACG a maximum of six more months.

Good luck anyhow

Bl00dy He11 ! What an incredible buch of nay-sayers and doom-mongers we seem to have here!

Glass half empty, or what? :mad:

It's at times like these that we all need to have a positive attitude and be keen on making things work - especially a new, heavy-iron operator.

GO ACG! Good luck to you guys! :ok:

Hey Zapper.

Trip Time is four to six days with three to four days off in between. At the Moment we do around 75-85 Blockhours a month, what is pretty nice, cos overtime pay starts at 60+ hours :) But I guess this will go down to 60 hours when they reach the crewfactor they want.

Most of the pilots don't live around Hahn, some guys commute in by plane, some drive 80km, 200km, or even 400km into HHN.

I have flown already for five different companies, ACG is my sixth, and it is the first one, where I really hope it stays in business until my retirement.

@CargoMatatu

Thanks mate. We all do our best, to keep it running :ok:

@snoopy747
Hi there, I must say, I am impressed! 6 Companys in let´s say 8 years, wow! Now you are 33, and you hope your 6th Company will bring you thru to your retirement! Thats another 34 years!! Good luck!:D
Cheers MD11f

Well, the other five are still in business. I just don't liked it there. ACG is really nice to work for, and it suits my personal situation best of all. Eight years was a good guess, but its twelve years now to be exact.

So ACG shares their commercial data (yields, cost, profitability) with their pilots? Sounds quite transparent to me...

Shame on us
 

Pilots...... we should be the worst of human kind.

One minute a collegue comes as says that he´s enjoying his new company, beeing happy, etc, and on the next minute you have dozens of mad dogs barking .
And please don´t come with the " down to heart" bull###.
What you don´t reallize is that if one airline goes down, guess what? You could be the next one.
Since we have so many aviation laureates in this forum, you guys know better that anyone else that´s the way aviation goes. A BIG DOMINO.
Even if you fly for a so called " Big company" just refresh yor minds with cases like Pan Am, SwissAir, Varig, etc, etc, etc
Anyway, wish you all safe flights back home .


Use the sun, not the shadow

First flight on 28. july, was it? And now after 3 month the company is doining pretty good? Oh come on, thats bull****. Maybe they are on track, maybe they are on their business plan, but they are loosing money and they do have low prices to get into the market. I did a start up with a Cargo Airline, always full, bust after 2 years. And that was in better times.
No Cargo Airline is doining good at the moment, lets hope for ACG that they have enough money to survive these difficult times and stay in business until they realy start to make some profit.

@Patroni, of course they share their datas with the pilots, like always "Dont worry we are doinig better than expected" :D

Best of luck for all the guys at ACG. :ok:

Cargo is picking up far quicker than expected actually and loads and more inmportant revenue are picking up day after day at most Cargo/ Night Freight Airlines. Within Europe as well as Long-Haul to Africa and Asia.

I´m not going to argue with you negative-thinkers. I am just going to enjoy flying here. That´s all from my side.

Well, I don't blame people, that are suspicious of a new start-up. On the other hand, ACG may be able to take advantage of the fact that Cargolux nearby in LUX are not expanding.

Luxembourg is a chapter on its own, The space for expansion at ELLX is limited, the local lobby regarding Airport Noise, etc. poweful, yet the LUX goverment does not want Cargolux expand to other bases such as HHN.

This very well might be a good opportunity for ACG. If they can eventually manage to get proper freighters (i.e. 747-400F or even 747-800F) instead of the BCFs, then they really could steal a good portion of CX and even LH cargo business. HHN Airport is very flexible and a great place to do business.

....And they have some nice Ex-Oasis guys on board....Is DM still doing the SIM or is he to be seen in the Pubs around the globe again...???

Good Luck guys !!!!:ok:

FrontRunner:

a) Detailed Company Information doesn't belong into an open discussion forum. That is why it is "vague". We are better informed at ACG than you might think.

b) Read previous statements better, before you post. All the companies I worked for before are STILL in business. I worked for exec, low cost, legacy; in Germany and as an expat. I made my experience.

It is really impressive how all the self-announced business experts from outside know better how the standing of the company is, than the company´s people themselves. I wonder why these people still sit in a cockpit to earn money. They should run own airlines, when they are so clever... or they just aren't ? who knows... Pro-Pretenders are everywhere.

So long...

Come on Robby, take it easy.
Hard times specially for freight, a startup always loses money, the question is how much. If you say ACG is doing pretty good, it might be a little optimistic.
To know exactly how pretty good the company is doing after 3 month, you have to be CFO of the company.

Hey Snoopy747,

can you get more than 4 days off in a row and/or get them back to back (end/beginning month) and have less off days between the trips?
Are there any plans for upgrading FO's?

Thanks and I hope your company keeps on going like this :ok:

@EAM who is 'Robby' ?

Wohoo, what new info that a starup is losing money at the beginning :ooh: Really ? I always thoght you get an airline like this running for free... you really need money for this ??? :sad:

Well, some people even call this "investment". Fact is, that the flight operation itself is profitable. ACG is not flying, just to fill the planes. We have no fixed route network that we MUST fly regardless of payload, like many others...

@conch
at the moment we have three or four days off between the trips. Schedule is total unpredictable at the moment. The experienced FO´s will be upgraded when the "old captains league" from Lufthansa & Co is too old to fly. This will happen sooner or later :E

Why do you want to know? Did I mean you.......!? :cool:

Have to agree with L1100-500. On the other hand, "All the companies I worked for before are STILL in business. I worked for exec, low cost, legacy; in Germany and as an expat. I made my experience." sounds swaggering, diction and style awake memories of a fly737ng guy from another forum. Calming down will help. A shut mouth catches no flies. :)

Small is beautiful. Hearing that an employee is happy is not bad either – compared to all the other stories we hear. Having options = companies – around never is a bad thing, especially if the labour market is as tight and regulated as the german one.

So isses. :ok:

@snoppy747


LH747 retierement CPTs will be a never ending line....these guys know each ohter very well....

To be promoted is very important. At the moment it doesn't make any sense to speculate when will be your upgrade....:bored:

I hope ACG is doing well in future, anything else we will see in two months when the Christmas run is over and the Asian business will be slowing down again.

However ACG is still in business instead of other competitors, which are still parking airplanes in the high season:rolleyes:

Well, still in business.....its in business for the last 3-4 month, a startup should survive at least more than a year, so nothing special about this.
But a startup in cargo business usualy offers prices which hardly cover the costs of the flight, just to start the network. So even if you have 100t on that 744, it does not even mean that the flight is paid. Everything under 100t you are loosing money.
On US routes you dont make any profit at all.

To get customers, you have basically three options :

- Offer a service that nobody else offers (obviously not the case here as ACG is not the only operator to offer maindeck capacity between the Far East and Europe).
- Underbid the market prices (possibly the case here but nobody knows the rates they offer).
- Have a very good salesman with some loyal customers that trust him and the service he is able to offer (also possibly the case here). So for the same rate as the legacy rate, the customer will choose you instead of KE, OZ, SQ or CV.

It is sad to say but the salesman is the most important person in the company.

To EAM, you can make profit under 100t payload (although not easily). You just have to choose carefully the routes you fly. Fly an AOG engine or some urgent drilling equipment to Luanda or Lagos and you gonna make profit with 20t payload on a 747F. Flexibility is also a key. Profit can come from how desperate the customer is to fly his freight.
You can also make profit on some US routes if you have the good customer. Fly for the US military and you'll still be able to make profit flying a crap -100F or -200F from the US across the world :-)

That said, I think it is too early to tell if they gonna go bust or not. Time will tell.

A.C.G. Hahn:
 

Hi there one and all,

I have a friend/ex. B747-200F First Officer to whom has been approached
for hire9via agency), we think for A.C.G. Currently now type rated for 400.

1. Does anybody knew how they are currently doing?
2. What salary,DIEM's etc they currently pay?
3. Understand they are mostly operating charters?

We would really appreciate any assistance by return,

Thanks :):ok:

Agency
 

Hi Bergkamp10

Out of interest, which agency was your friend contacted by for the possible vacancy?

Frosh, I must dissapoint you. I have no clue who you are talking about. This is the only pilot site I am active on if that helps your prosecution of my identity.

Details on ACG: For how we are doing, kindly ask Hetfield, he is the expert on that.

Salary and Terms and Conditions won"t be posted by me - neither open, nor via PM. Thanks for understanding.

Applications: Plenty

Stream of "Legacy Retiries" has been cut. Big appreciation from all three stripers on that within the company :E

Do you have a contact by chance? I need to work! I am Typed in the 744 and 747 Classic.

Thx.