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rolandpull 29th Aug 2008 18:55

AN124 to NBO
 
If I was to charter an An124 from the UK midlands to NBO, would 37 tonne be a realistic payload given an AUW of 393t/

AAL 29th Aug 2008 19:17

Whats the nature and dimensions of your cargo?

rolandpull 30th Aug 2008 17:53

Its hypothetical AAL. I have been offered a payload of 37t, I would have thought the offer would have been higher, or perhaps the acft is uplifting more of the 'queens' fuel for a rainy day/the next charter sector?

icarus sun 30th Aug 2008 18:21

Not 100% sure but I believe it burns 18tons an hour and cruises at mach.74.

Coleman Myers 30th Aug 2008 18:48

Dims
 
If your cargo is dense a B707 will do it for a fifth of the price (fuel stop incuded :E)

zfwmac 30th Aug 2008 22:10

Oh do behave CM, where are you going to find a B707 these days? Maybe an 8 out of OST but your havin' a laugh with a 707!!

Pontious 30th Aug 2008 22:59

A 767-300 would do it in 8-9 hours nonstop burning 35-40 tonnes of fuel assuming it isn't too bulky.
:ok:

AAL 31st Aug 2008 07:42

That was the essence of my question.

Why would you want to use an An-124 for 5 times (or probably even more) to fly such a small payload. An-124 only comes into its own right when loading absolute outsize cargo that no other aircraft can.

Even two IL-76 flights also with outsize capability and 90 tons combined, will perform cheaper.

B747-200NF at about same payload will perform same flight for half/two thirds the cost if it can fit height of load.

For your load DC-8-63F out of OST you will get best value for money, or by DC-10F out of XCR, otherwise IL-76 out of XCR or CHR.

If not charter you will probably deliver cheapest on Emirates via DXB to NBO.

africa man 31st Aug 2008 09:19

i think perhaps a part charter price or even a per kilo basis, also u would get a better service from ost, more of a choice as i blve there is already an operator that goes through nbo from ost, it all depends on your ttl cube of shipment and how many positions it would accom, but certainly a lot cheaper than an an-124, if you are willing to pay a part charter price i expect the operator would also consider coming into the west midlands to collect the shipper en-route to africa..

antonovman 4th Sep 2008 22:59

"Not 100% sure but I believe it burns 18tons an hour and cruises at mach.74."

it burns 18T for the first hour during the climb then 10T per hour in the cruise

icarus sun 6th Sep 2008 15:42

Glad to hear that the AN124 has such low fuel consumption. It must make all the operators of B747 freighters quake,seeing that they have higher fuel burn. The burn of the AN124 is nearly as good as the B777 freighter.:D

N707ZS 7th Sep 2008 09:37

AAL has a point if your cargo is one lump of 37t you might have problems. You might need a special pallet to spread the load, but if its a 100 crates that add up to 37t there shouldn't be a problem.

mtogw 7th Sep 2008 13:48

Think on the flipside,
Could it be that an AN124 is positioning to NBO and they the airline or chartere have offered 37tons available payload for resale to reduce costs?? In otherwords max fuel to NBO including enough for the next leg which leavse a 37ton gap they can fill with revenue??!!!
Mr Antonovman.. was that really a typo on the fuel burn?? 16/18 tons/hr is more like cruise burn.. hope you're fine...

CargoOne 7th Sep 2008 14:06

If I remember right the average fuel burn for a typical sector would be 13t per hour. Unfortunately AN124 is much slower than 747.

rolandpull 7th Sep 2008 14:24

Thanks for all the input guys. MTOGW, thanks for yours. I have nothing more to add other than the frt was small units/plts up to 4000kgs.:D

It Gets Worse 15th Sep 2008 22:28

FUEL BURN on AN124
 
Hi All,

Flew on AN 124 for some 6-7 years in total.
Fuel burn is 19 tonnes in first hour at MTOM and 13 tonnes per hour thereafter. Normal ops would include a fuel on landing of around 25 tonnes.
A/C empty weight around 185 tonnes and max take-off 392 tonnes.
Depending on loading method used, may be necessary to carry loading ramp equipment, further reducing payload. Cruise around .74M
It would be obvious to those in the business that the 124 is not the "cheap" option. It does a particular job very very well. Don't use a 124 if a cheaper alternative will do the job (volume/floor loading wise) Anyway I suspect that DOT would not issue a traffic permit if an AN124 was not required!

Cheers

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