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Eurotrash 13th Oct 2001 19:08

Keep The Queen B727!
 
As a Captain flying these freighters around europe and previously passenger aircraft, I have to say im going to miss her.

Does ANYBODY really know when EAT/Air Contractors/Starair/Swift Air are going to retire these aircraft? I dont mention UPS as they have the -217 engines, which will see into 2010.

A few pics. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=066280 http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=104349 http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=133698

Also European Governments MUST WAKE UP in this economic climate and keep these aircraft operating without restrictions as they cost nothing, are strong, and graceful aircraft

Vive La sept deux sept! :cool:

Locolito 13th Oct 2001 22:29

Think i heard ACL will keep the 727 until sometime next year but can't remeber. I've got head like sieve :( lol

Rgds,
Loco.

Conc 14th Oct 2001 00:10

Several pilots from the company I work for are now at Air Contractors on the 727 and they have been saying that the 727s will be retired by the end of next year.

411A 14th Oct 2001 05:20

Not good news for the 727 on the western side of the great divide......UAL, AA, DAL to retire then all shortly...Kittyhawk Air Cargo to park 14 in November. Narrow body, three engines, three crew...not a good combination in todays' cost effective environment. Sad but true.

GlueBall 14th Oct 2001 18:17

All good things must come to an end someday. The 727s and Diesel Eights have long overstayed their welcome in European skies. :(

neil armstrong 14th Oct 2001 18:55

The problem is that there is no other A/C that can last in the cargo world like the 727 does (nicely over designed).

Please let me keep my toy!

Neil

RampTramp 14th Oct 2001 21:11

Conc has it about right, as far as I know, current planning has the ACL 72's gone by the end of 2002 although I hear some will be moved to South Africa (Safair). The DHL ones should be gone shortly after although I think Swiftair will continue to operate the old lady for a few years yet. A lot depends on the deliveries of the 75, currently well behind schedule for several reasons but the EU hush kit ban is the real reason for their demise. I'm sure there are lots of people who agree with Neil A but, as of 2003, Europe fast runs out of airport where they can operate, especially at night.

I'm sure they still have a future in less restictive parts of the world. May their fires never go out & their tyres never go flat :)

NIGHTFR8R 15th Oct 2001 00:28

from what I've heard the 727 will be banned from BRU & CGN March next year (too dammed noisy)

Eurotrash 15th Oct 2001 03:59

Non, I think that the noise will be overcome by the way of "this airplane HAS too stay because of economics", DhlAir in UK wont be getting off the ground ME thinks.

My company EAT has crews(new crews) training in Burgges Hill in UK at the moment as Aer Contractors have(contract crews), Swift Well who knows??!

This machine WILL be around for another few years I HOPE!(geting on and dont need another type Rating)

I thought the DC8 with Karair was going to be my retirement bird!

More Food 4 taugt http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=072044 http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=110407 http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=120358 http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=138786

Sorry Guys I just cant resist this machine!!!!!
:rolleyes:

[ 15 October 2001: Message edited by: Eurotrash ]

neil armstrong 15th Oct 2001 14:13

I think Bru. will be a little more open minded after Sabena will be gone and EAT is the biggest operator there!

Neil

millionAIR 16th Oct 2001 18:51

dhl will hold on too some of their 727's and operate during the day.They will probably operate out of athens and hahn

JJflyer 17th Oct 2001 17:41

B727's in Africa... Looks like this is the promised continent for the old lady. No noise restrictions, no restrictions period. Our airplanes are the stricktly stage II and probably one of the few -100 series still flying in pax configuration on scheduled routes.

I enjoy flying the " Thereeholer " and will miss it when moving into a new type.

mig21bis 18th Oct 2001 06:47

As Bitish say, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

mig21bis 18th Oct 2001 06:54

Sorry for the mistake,

As British say, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

Cat-Club 18th Oct 2001 17:16

Cougar Cargo now operate the Super27...

"The Quiet Cat"
http://www.cougar-ltd.co.uk/aircraft/aircraft.html

con-pilot 19th Oct 2001 00:04

Got about 7,000hrs in the old 72, really loved it. Thanks to UPS they will be around for a little longer.

Got to fly a 100 series with -217 engines, what an airplane!

:D :D :D :D

On GS 19th Oct 2001 11:00

Just to get it straight. Those UPS -100 have RR TAY engines. ;)

parcelpuppy 19th Oct 2001 19:59

All you 727 fans,
Look out .The Cougar Cats will start nightime prowling next week.

Roc 22nd Oct 2001 07:02

The UPS 727's are powered by RR Tays, that have approximately the same amount of thrust as a JT8D-17. Also UPS will be flying them for many years to come as they are stage 3 compliant, and I'm told possibly stage 4 if it occurs due to the Tays. All 52 -100 models are Tay modified, but they also fly 8 -200's that are hushkitted (JT8D)

ironbutt57 30th Mar 2002 09:59

most if not all of the ups fleet are re-fitted with the tay engine


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