Surely we can agree that the benefits for new joiners and those that joined after 2015 are substantial and obvious with the old A scale conditions back!
According to the unions presentation the following has been agreed.
A 4% pay increase over 4 years on top of the index which should be another 2.5% this year.
There is an agreement on large buffers on the EASA FTL limits for standard crew plus a second sector limitation.
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Big steps have been taken to improve roster stability and fixed off days. 12 off days per calendar month plus 42 vacation days. By spreading that vacation days evenly over the year you can effectively create a 7on, 8off roster!
Commercial positioning is either business or first class.
With the continued recruitment that opens the door for more upgrading and faster career progression.
This is just a few items from the top of my head but I would say that this is a large benefit for all existing crews as well.

Final24....you read the new CWA like the devil reads the Bible..you took the money, but for sure this one will haunt you for years to come....

Final24 = management troll :ugh:

Final 24 I would like to know what’s your “problem” is concerning expansion or not of Cargolux Itaia.
Is your contract bad because them or what? I would like to understand..thanks

´Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt´

Men generally believe what they want to, so opinions can not be changed, regardless of the abrasive and evident truth.
If roster planning equals to strained muscle, roster execution (and reality) equals to rape. I encourage the smart cookies to further elaborate about this topic. Have fun. :suspect:

Sure....you’ll be on the road for a minimum of 19 days so plenty of opportunity to commute..😉

Depending on where you’re commuting from:8 Most people commute anyway, some as far as from Spain or Scandinavia. My average trip length so far this year’s 7 days, longest beeing 12 and the shortest 4 days. Spent 95 days away from home year to date, so all in all pretty commutable!

Hi, my experience is, commuting works fine. The majority of colleagues commutes by car. Mostly we are talking about 3-4 hours of driving. Some even commute towards Munich area by car (~5hrs).
My view is, with the new CWA now signed the conditions for new entries will be acceptable again moneywise. Hopefully that will result in more people joining, eliminating chaotic rostering due to lack of pilots. The companie’s network, airplane, maintenance and colleagues are really remarkable.
I hope I could help you, answering your question, good luck!

Is that the same also for CVI?

Hi guys,

is it possible to see how a FO roster looks like? How much is net salary with the new contract?

thank you ufon

No, that’s not possible, the reason being that from the time the roster is issued it will change 25-30 times before your flight - often 4-5 times on the day before your first duty.

Thank you for the answer. this means that if I am not living in Lux it will be very hard for me to plan my life and see my family, am I right?
I was curious if commuting is a real possibility, but from what I saw on this forum, it is very hard...

No that’s not true, you should have read a few posts back;)
The majority of colleagues are commuting (mostly to Bel. Ned, Ger, Aust. Swi) and this works out well for most of us. I’m on full time and have spent an average of 13 days on the road per month so far this year, average trip lenth 7,5 days, making commuting pretty doable.

Don’t be misleaded by what a few people say on pprune. True, roster changes get on everyones nerves and it’s definitely not all roses here, but all in all it’s still a good deal, especially now with new joiners basically getting the “old” contract again (B-scale gone).