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Cyclic Hotline 10th May 2004 21:49

US Forest Service cancels ALL heavy tanker fixed-wing contracts
 
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U.S.D.A. FOREST SERVICE AND DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR AGENCIES CANCEL LARGE AIRTANKER CONTRACT


BOISE, IDAHO, MAY 10, 2004 – The U.S.D.A. Forest Service and the Department of the Interior announced today that they are terminating the contract for 33 large airtankers due to concerns over the airworthiness of the aircraft and public safety. The large fixed-wing airtankers were used in wildland firefighting primarily for initial attack and structure protection support.

The decision comes in response to findings and recommendations contained in the April 23, 2004, National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) report on three previous airtanker accidents. One critical NTSB finding states “it was apparent that no effective mechanism currently exists to ensure the continuing airworthiness of these firefighting aircraft.” The NTSB report also concluded that the Forest Service and the Department of the Interior were responsible for ensuring the safety of firefighting aircraft. Private companies operate the 33 airtankers under a contract with the federal agencies during the fire season.

Since most of the large airtankers were designed and used for military operations before their acquisition by contract companies, the NTSB report also indicated that a complete history of maintenance and inspection records are not available for many of them. This lack of documentation makes it impossible to guarantee airworthiness, according to the NTSB. The average age of the large airtankers is 48 years with some more than 60 years old.

“Safety is a core value of the firefighting community and it is non-negotiable,” said Forest Service Chief Dale Bosworth. “To continue to use these contract large airtankers when no mechanism exists to guarantee their airworthiness presents an unacceptable level of risk to the aviators, the firefighters on the ground and the communities we serve.”

“We take the findings and recommendations made by NTSB very seriously.” said Director Clarke, “Chief Bosworth and I are committed to working with other federal agencies, our state partners, Congress, industry, and the public to understand and adjust to this change while continuing to provide safe and effective fire management and suppression."

The large airtankers are one of many tools that firefighters use, but wildland fires are managed and suppressed on the ground, not from the air. During any year, thousands of wildland fires are suppressed on initial attack without the benefit of air support.

The agencies developed a strategy for the 2004 firefighting season to supplement aerial resources with other available aircraft such as large helicopters and helitankers, single engine airtankers (SEATS), and military C-130 aircraft equipped with the Modular Airborne Firefighting System (MAFFS). A strategy for long-term aviation asset management and acquisitions of newer aircraft based on available funding will be developed by the leadership of the Forest Service and the DOI agencies.

“Clearly the days of operating older aircraft of unknown airworthiness for firefighting operations are over,” said Chief Bosworth. “We are grateful to the pilots, crews, and operators of these aircraft, who have dedicated themselves to firefighting efforts over the decades. We have the greatest fire management and suppression program in the world, and we will continue to protect lives, property and our nation’s natural resources.”

For further information, contact Rose Davis, Forest Service Fire and Aviation Management Public Affairs at (208) 387-5437.

411A 11th May 2004 03:04

Hmmm,
Considering the very dry conditions out west, wonder just how long this will stand....especially with flames lapping at many housing developments doorstep, out in the hinderlands.

The USFS really has no idea...why are we not surprised?
These turkeys start 'controlled burns' now which quickly get out of control and burn many homes already...what next:mad: :mad: :mad:

ICT_SLB 11th May 2004 05:15

Of course they could always follow the example of Canada and the majority of European countries - but a NEW waterbomber designed & stressed for the job - a CL415.

Torquelink 11th May 2004 08:14

. . . or the Beriev Be200

javelin 11th May 2004 08:45

Or Evergreen's 747 - see this

http://www.evergreenaviation.com/supertanker/index.html

Awesome download video.

MidnightSpecial 11th May 2004 15:06

Having grown up in fire country, it is exciting to see the planes make the 'bombing run' on the fire and drop the retardant. They have saved many neighborhoods.

MS

CaptW5 11th May 2004 16:23

I think that Hawkins & Powers (who used to operate the Privateer and C-130 that crashed) has orders in for the Beriev.

dusk2dawn 11th May 2004 20:05

Why has this subject been moved to Freight Dogs ? We never drop anything !

CaptW5 11th May 2004 22:44

That was going to be my question as well. Guess that there is no real forum for tanker/specialty pilots.

Beaver Driver 12th May 2004 03:03

http://airtanker.com/1.html?http://airtanker.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.html

CaptW5 12th May 2004 03:53

Thanks for the correction. I should have said: a separate forum here at PPrune.

CargoOne 12th May 2004 10:46

dusk2dawn

You never know. There are freight dogs who actually doing airdrops on occasions, like for World Food Program :)

411A 19th May 2004 06:40

It would appear that some sanity has returned to thinking about large airtankers.
Keeping in mind that such sanity could never ever come from the USFS, the FAA has anounced this evening that all large airtankers will be inspected (by the FAA) and returned to service if found airworthy.
A pox on the USFS is in order...:mad: :mad: :mad:
Complaints by nine western Governors, 16 senators and over 100,000 emails seemed to do the trick.
I hope...:ok:


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