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Old 30th Oct 2019, 10:29
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Same here and still waiting for a response.
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 01:03
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Another month has passed, anyone heard anything yet?
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 11:43
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Nothing yet, Anyone else?
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Old 11th Jan 2020, 22:33
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What did happen with the 737F in Marseille?
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Old 20th Jan 2020, 10:25
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I have had no reaction on the october application whatsoever except for the confirmation mail. Now they have re-opened recruitment again for NTR FO's 737. How strange.
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Old 20th Jan 2020, 19:49
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I'm in the same boat as you are!
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 21:42
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Do you think west Atlantic will start recruiting low hour pilots that have just finished there training. I have noticed the FO job vacancies they have has no hour requirements.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 08:25
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Originally Posted by Jaygilly
Do you think west Atlantic will start recruiting low hour pilots that have just finished there training. I have noticed the FO job vacancies they have has no hour requirements.
The only way to know is to apply.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 10:59
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They have done it in the past and it is not likely they have a lot of experienced pilots lined up, especially not on turbo prop. If there is a time it is now! Mind you that it will take forever to gain hours at WA...
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 12:59
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They have done it in the past and it is not likely they have a lot of experienced pilots lined up, especially not on turbo prop. If there is a time it is now! Mind you that it will take forever to gain hours at WA...
What is the average hours a FO fly annually?
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 19:58
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Originally Posted by pilot freak
What is the average hours a FO fly annually?
Between 200 and 300 hours per year, I was told. Lots of short sectors, and short nights. Freight isn’t the best way of building hours and experience, I’m afraid.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 18:28
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Is EMA the only pilot base? I've seen WA 737s parked during the day at a few regional bases.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 21:28
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Originally Posted by hard_landing
Is EMA the only pilot base? I've seen WA 737s parked during the day at a few regional bases.
Day stops. They fly to their base or "focus" airports like Liège in the night.
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 12:42
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Has anyone applied for the NTR FO position and heard anything back?

Thanks
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 12:44
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Originally Posted by Fanor
Has anyone applied for the NTR FO position and heard anything back?

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I applied but haven't heard anything, but the applications haven't closed yet
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Old 8th Feb 2020, 19:44
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Originally Posted by hard_landing
Is EMA the only pilot base? I've seen WA 737s parked during the day at a few regional bases.
EMA is the base for the 737. However, with week-on week-off there is no need to live close to EMA.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 16:49
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Originally Posted by Rottweiler22
Between 200 and 300 hours per year, I was told. Lots of short sectors, and short nights. Freight isn’t the best way of building hours and experience, I’m afraid.
Define 'experience'?
Lots of short sectors,
...seems a good way of building very good experience.

Unless, of course, you are confusing 'hours' with 'experience'?

One could easily argue that a 500 hr regional turbo-prop pilot has a lot more experience than a 500 hr 'bucket and spade flights' A320 pilot.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 17:14
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Lots of ILS to ILS. That's been my experience so far. And weather during the night is also a bit more "friendly" than during the day.
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Old 10th Feb 2020, 12:17
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Originally Posted by Trossie
Define 'experience'?
...seems a good way of building very good experience.

Unless, of course, you are confusing 'hours' with 'experience'?

One could easily argue that a 500 hr regional turbo-prop pilot has a lot more experience than a 500 hr 'bucket and spade flights' A320 pilot.
Not necessarily. This wasn’t the debate I was getting into. I’m sure it’s great experience. Varied airports, quieter and more chilled ATC, plenty of chances to get the autopilot off and have a go. Not to mention a 737 rating, WOWO roster, and the ability to commute to EMA once a week.

But, it can be a slow way to get experience. Short sectors followed by long waits, some 2 sector days and done (I’m not complaining about that!). Granted, there are longer tours, and some are better than others. Then it’s a whole week off. As a new pilot, it could take you the best part of 5 years to unfreeze your ATPL. Quite slow burning for a new pilot who would fly 7 days a week if they could (I know I would have).

Possibly. The regional prop pilot will have probably done more sectors, turnarounds, take-offs, landings, and seen more dodgy weather up in the Scottish Islands than an Airbus pilot. So quality stick time, yes. Got the t-shirt for that one. Personally, I’d rather point my Airbus in the right direction for 3 hours, than do a 6 sector Sumburgh, but that’s for another day.


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Old 10th Feb 2020, 16:01
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Unless West Atlantic is your end goal, 250 hours is not good for a low timer. I have been in night freight and it could take 10 years to get 2500 hours to be able to get a left seat or be interesting for another “better” airline. Sure, WOWO is great. But this job is more interesting for a DEC that is after lifestyle then it is for a 200hr CPL guy. In aviation anything can happen and believe me when I say it is better to be made redundant with 2000 hours A320/737NG then with 500 hours 737CL or ATP.
Positive though is the roster and the operation is dead simple. No stress whatsoever. I am not 100% sure but I believe the money is better with EAT/DHK/ASL and Star Air.
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