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Old 10th Sep 2019, 09:35
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Can anybody give me an idea on the salary including extra's like flight pay of a Captain on the B737. Thank you.
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Here are the basic details.
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An example of monthly gross pay with two day off payments. As most of the trips cross midnight day off payments usually come in pairs.
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Thank you TFE731, that is very helpful.
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What is the point of including day off payments. Just to make the salary looks better or are you expected to accept working on your off days?

WOWO is pretty good roster. But not sunday to saturday. In this case you never have a full weekend off.

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Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
What is the point of including day off payments. Just to make the salary looks better or are you expected to accept working on your off days?

WOWO is pretty good roster. But not sunday to saturday. In this case you never have a full weekend off.
You are never expected to work any extra days but most people do. For me, if an extra Stanstead-Edinburgh-Stanstead is on offer I can leave my house at 20:00, be back home by 03:00 and be £900 (less tax) richer.

The weekend situation is much better than it looks. A lot of the duties don't start until early Monday morning while others finish late on Friday. Also if you volunteer to do a slip-shift you work Thursday to Wednesday.

When you take 7 days of leave you don't fly for 21 days. Week off, week leave, week off and you can do that three times in a year. Also being cargo not passenger leave during school summer holidays is not usually a problem.
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Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
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WOWO is pretty good roster. But not sunday to saturday. In this case you never have a full weekend off.
If you are an airline pilot, what is a 'weekend'??!! Many pilots that I know never have weekends off, especially during busy periods. The last two posters give the idea that the actual weekend situation is really quite good.
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Originally Posted by fredthedog
£4800 after tax is about the average monthly salary for a Captain. Weeks on are often not a full 7 days so weekends off are more common if that’s your thing. Lots of time off and often options to sell days off so if you prefer money over time then that’s a winner too.

For me having the ability to plan my life more than one month ahead for the first time in my career trumps earning more money elsewhere. Also the way the leave works means that I effectively have 12 weeks leave per year plus week on off, with that in mind the salary begins to look not too bad at all.
That equates to 203 days off / leave a year?. And I suspect most Saturdays are "rest" days. Sounds like PT almost
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Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
Thanks for the response.
One or two weekends at home per month is almost a necessity if you have a family so therefore my question. ...
So you are not an airline pilot then? Most airline pilots do not know what a weekend is. (Other than that those are the days that they are most likely to be rostered to fly!)
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Has anyone been hired by them recently?
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Yes they have and they still need pilots. There is an OCC taking place these days and there will be more. Same thing for ASL Ireland.
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Hi,

does anyone have a rough guestimate how long it takes to get command in West Atlantic, if you join as a B737 F/O with previous command experience on CRJ?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 12th Oct 2019, 09:28
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Originally Posted by limahotel
Hi,

does anyone have a rough guestimate how long it takes to get command in West Atlantic, if you join as a B737 F/O with previous command experience on CRJ?

Thanks in advance.
Hi Limahotel,

Very hard to guestimate because it varies based on company expansion, prior experience, & performance. I joined as an FO with about 8000hr total and 5000hr in command of other jets. It took me 7 months from final line check as FO to final line check as Capt. However, I was lucky and the company was rapidly expanding at the time. At the moment I would guess the minimum is about a year.

Hope this helps.
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Is there any chance of DECs on the 73 at EMA?
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Originally Posted by beerisgood
Is there any chance of DECs on the 73 at EMA?
Slim to none at the moment. The company is concentrating on FO upgrades to fill their Capt requirements, and at current demand that is sufficient. However this is aviation and by next week it all might have changed...
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I heard new assessments coming up. Anyone got an invitation for a FO 737 position?
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Originally Posted by Raph737
Does anyone attended their assessment lately? Very little information around the line of questioning they follow and the sim.
The 737 fleet of West Atlantic has its roots going back to Atlantic Airlines. Atlantic Airlines operated the Lockheed Electra and other old aircraft, and in many ways the spirit of Atlantic Airlines lives on. With that in mind I would expect any sim assessment to feature a considerable amount of raw data hand flying.
West Atlantic trips are six or seven days long and crew pairings normally stay the same for the whole week, so the interview is likely to focus on personality as well as the standard questions.
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Would anyone be able to share a FO roster on the ATP based at EMA, either WOWO or 10/28 to give an idea of the schedule/ destinations on the fleet? Feel free to PM if you wish.
Many thanks in advance
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Has anyone had a response for the NTR FO position that closed a week or so ago?
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Originally Posted by BentleyTheDog
Has anyone had a response for the NTR FO position that closed a week or so ago?
Nothing yet, would be good to get a response sooner rather than later as in aviation, one week is fairly long I would say.
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