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Since there's been some recent activity in the thread thought I'd ask. What the estimate time to command for someone joining with less than 1000hrs but previous jet experience (500 in my case)? Seems they removed the 757 option, is the a300 limited to more experienced applicants?
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Wrong company/thread, this is about DHL Air UK, we do not have A300, just 757 and 767. The A300 are with EAT, but both companies require at least 3000h total, with around 300h a year it will take you quite some years.
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Ah apologies, Was thinking the LEJ was the Leipzig outfit merged into this thread. Had a feeling about the time to upgrade. Thanks for confirming, definitely something to consider on my side.
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@Hawker, no worries, just to make sure you are aware that there are 2 different companies both with Leipzig base.
@banana joe, there is kind of seniority, but in DHK command is not purely based on seniority.
@banana joe, there is kind of seniority, but in DHK command is not purely based on seniority.
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Im thinking about applying for DHL Air UK, and was wondering what the lifestyle is like at the moment. Are they offering a fixed roster pattern?
Currently SFO on long haul. Do they use seniority to dictate who gets to fly 767 (777 in a few years), and for upgrade?
Piece of string question... But traditionally, how long has the wait been for a shot at command? And is it a fair process?
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Currently SFO on long haul. Do they use seniority to dictate who gets to fly 767 (777 in a few years), and for upgrade?
Piece of string question... But traditionally, how long has the wait been for a shot at command? And is it a fair process?
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It all depends on your current hours, I see you’re currently flying L/H so if you meet the 3000 minimum then providing you get a tick in the box on your sims you could in today’s climate be looking at a Crack at it in under two years. As for the fixed roster that is seniority based however you’d have a better chance if you were LEJ based rather than EMA, it’s known as the 9 n 5 which actually works out 8 n 6 in reality but it’s not available to 76 long haul crews. As for the 777......please tell me more???
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I think most of it is already answered in this thread.
Yes there is a fixed pattern and you can get on it after 1 year, 9n5 and as captbod says, unlikely to get in EMA.
For the command as already mentioned, 2 years and all the boxes ticked, at the moment around 3 years, but I guess it might be more in the next years.
Everything is seniority based, but not only on seniority.
The 777 should be here in 2021/22 taking over the A330 flights.
Yes there is a fixed pattern and you can get on it after 1 year, 9n5 and as captbod says, unlikely to get in EMA.
For the command as already mentioned, 2 years and all the boxes ticked, at the moment around 3 years, but I guess it might be more in the next years.
Everything is seniority based, but not only on seniority.
The 777 should be here in 2021/22 taking over the A330 flights.
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We are doing a lot of commands at the moment, but I don't think this will continue for much longer. If you join today it would be at least 2 years, but unless we are getting more a/c I guess the guys who will have their command in the next 2 years will be enough to cover the retirements.
So, 2-3 years at the moment, but I think that is very optimistic for the future, but hey, its DHL and you never never know. ;-)
So, 2-3 years at the moment, but I think that is very optimistic for the future, but hey, its DHL and you never never know. ;-)
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Guys I am looking at my package and its saying 12/12 or 11/12 I was reading it as 12 on 12 off or 11 on 12 off have I understood it correctly? Everyone seams to be talking about 6/5 and so on.
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Hi meatball,
Basically, depending on your commute as a new joiner, you can be offered a part time contract as part of a zonal policy in order to help mitigate Fatigue. This particular deal is only available to Experienced joiners and not LEP/Cadets.
So anything along those lines (10/12, 11/12s etc...) means that if you take your work and divide it by 12 and multiply it by 10 or 11, that’ll be your total work for the year. You’ll still be on a flexi contract but whereas the normal full time flexi roster has around 10 days off per month on it, expect a couple more each month.
In terms of pay (in the uk at least!), it doesn’t make too much difference really due to tax.
Hope this helps!
Basically, depending on your commute as a new joiner, you can be offered a part time contract as part of a zonal policy in order to help mitigate Fatigue. This particular deal is only available to Experienced joiners and not LEP/Cadets.
So anything along those lines (10/12, 11/12s etc...) means that if you take your work and divide it by 12 and multiply it by 10 or 11, that’ll be your total work for the year. You’ll still be on a flexi contract but whereas the normal full time flexi roster has around 10 days off per month on it, expect a couple more each month.
In terms of pay (in the uk at least!), it doesn’t make too much difference really due to tax.
Hope this helps!
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If you move and live in Leipzig you will be offered a full time contract, 12/12. If you want to commute you will be offered a part time contract 11/12 or 10/12.
After 1 year you can apply for the block roster, full time or part time, which is 9/5 9days on 5 days off.
After 1 year you can apply for the block roster, full time or part time, which is 9/5 9days on 5 days off.
Here’s another way of looking at it.
For every month of your contract you ‘earn’ 10 OFF days and 3.5 days leave. So a full contract (12/12th) gets 42 days leave and 120 OFF days distributed through the year (total 162). A 10/12th contract has 61 part time days off (2/12x365), gets 100 OFF days and 35 days leave, so after 35 days leave there are 161 days off to be distributed over the whole year (total 196).
Hope this helps.
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ps still trying to work out who EAM and hobnob are!!
For every month of your contract you ‘earn’ 10 OFF days and 3.5 days leave. So a full contract (12/12th) gets 42 days leave and 120 OFF days distributed through the year (total 162). A 10/12th contract has 61 part time days off (2/12x365), gets 100 OFF days and 35 days leave, so after 35 days leave there are 161 days off to be distributed over the whole year (total 196).
Hope this helps.
dh
ps still trying to work out who EAM and hobnob are!!
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