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DHL Air UK/LEJ ASSESSMENT

Old 12th Mar 2017, 23:43
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Jay. Are you applying to DHK?
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 08:15
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Any predictions what Brexit might bring for DHL Air?

Would their LEJ operations be in danger of being replaced by DHL EAT? Nobody has a crystal ball but some must know enough to have some valid thoughts on this?
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Old 14th Mar 2017, 11:28
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Any predictions what Brexit might bring for DHL Air?
Thats a good one. According to the management all will be fine
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 11:47
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Good Morning all,
I attended the assessment for the Cadet FO position yesterday, DHL is truly an amazing company to work for. Everyone I came across was super nice, the company really look after thier employees and take pride in helping them develop and provide support and guidance when needed.
Leipzig is truly an incredible place to live lots to do, lots to see and would be a perfect place to even one day settle down and start a familly. DHL provide support with relocation, i.e Finding a place, language lessons ect.
For me it's an amazing company to be with and definitely a place where I could see myself for the long run/longterm career prospect.

For now fingers crossed for the results to be revealed ....
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 12:10
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Zubair all I can say is hahahaha
What a good presentation they must of done to come over like that ��
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Old 17th Mar 2017, 17:29
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@CV just out of curiosity, because you mentioned that already a few times.
Did keep the 4 month notice, or did you leave early?
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 09:48
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Interesting, its a bit of topic and probably goes a bit too much into details, but did you go to a lawyer and thought to sue them? Its your money.

Anyway, DHK is a good job. The management is like in any other company, they don't care about you. Rules are always different when its to their advantage.

For cadets its not really the right place, you do about 300h per year, so you don't make a lot of hours. After 10 years you have 3000h, by that time your friends are already in command in other companies. But the job is good, pay is alright and you don't have to worry too much about the future, apart from the Brexit.
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 19:35
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they did not pay my last month's salary
so that is actually not true then

they did pay up but a few days late
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 19:59
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Sorry complete outsider here.

300h/y that's about 6h flying per week. Surely can't be a full time position ?!
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Old 18th Mar 2017, 22:04
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You do an average of 30 block hours with about 70-90 duty hours per month, that is typical for cargo operation.
@Merovinigian the time away on the roster are not the real duty hours.
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Old 19th Mar 2017, 16:49
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Originally Posted by The Merovingian View Post
Try not break it down into weekly flying. It varies on how busy the network is, however an average week of work it's common to be flying a two/ three sector nights and occasionally a 4 sector may be chucked in there for good measure.

The sectors are normally short and the waiting time between each sector can be rather long, anywhere between 1 - 4 hours, which eats into your duty period. Add into the mix you night stop 98% of the time and those are the main reasons why you tend not to accrue many flying hours.

To give an example, you may fly 30-35 per month (busy), your duty hours are in the region of 250-300+ hours.
A really quiet month, you'll have a loads of home/ airport standbys and may only end up flying 10-20 hours with the duty hours in the region of about 100-150 hours.
Thanks for those clarifications. I honestly had no idea.
Is this typical for all European cargo operations (I guess DHL UK doesn't do long haul?)
Just for info could you post a typical week schedule (ie. flight, wait, next sector, rest)? Doesn't need to be too specific, just to give a ballpark idea to the uneducated.
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Old 20th Mar 2017, 11:57
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Thanks, very interesting and educative.

Definitely not for everyone but if (big if) you manage decent rest and don't look for family life it might be fairly decent.

Anyway thanks again - gives me a glimpse in the life of a freightdog
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 01:40
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Any DHL insiders here who could comment on their employers age policy? They seem to hire lowtimers occasionally, but would they also consider the odd lowtimer past mid-30s (thats when I expect to be all done modular)?

I have extensive routine with working shifts/night (non aviation though), my German is quite alright and we could see ourselves making a home in LEJ. No idea if those factors are pluses in the cargo biz.
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 09:32
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Well, if we are talking about DHL Air UK, non of this gives you an advantage, but the age isn'ta disadvantage.
We hire low timers and most of them are quite young, but to be realistic, even our management can be considered as low timers in relation to their age

Give it a try, if you speak german and want to move to Leipzig, it is definitely a plus for you and how to get along with the job in Leipzig.
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 20:17
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Thanks EAM, always good to hear there are a few possible employers out there.
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 13:41
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What are the travel benefits at DHL? Do they have an interline travel arrangement?
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 14:45
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Interline

None of that I'm afraid. Various airlines in the group are used to jumpseat pilots around when needed. So DHK, EAT, ASL, Aerologic, West Atlantic, Cargo Air are the ones I can think of.
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 17:14
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Originally Posted by atakacs View Post
Is this typical for all European cargo operations (I guess DHL UK doesn't do long haul?)
Yup (considering they fly narrow body jets on a European network). DHL is pretty "easy" when it comes to rostering, other companies will have "heavier" duties (more 3-4 sector nights) but also more time back home.
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 21:45
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No. They also fly 767s long haul as well as in place of the 757 if the network demands it.
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Old 19th Jan 2018, 22:17
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Originally Posted by BraceBrace View Post
DHL is pretty "easy" when it comes to rostering, other companies will have "heavier" duties (more 3-4 sector nights) but also more time back home.
Definitely not, DHK does 3 and sometimes 4 sectors a night, long nights and quite often you do 3 sectors every night for 5 days.

DHK rosters are quite fatiguing at the moment due to lack of pilots. The rosters are everything,....but easy!
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