Amerijet Strike!
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Think I am kidding, watch a little of Teamster history. If anyone thinks any other way, I will be available tomorrow after five o'clock to discuss it with you. See you there.
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Solidarity
To ALL the Amerijet Pilots, salutations of "Solidarity". I will NEVER fly struck freight knowingly, nor cross a Picketline.
to jetgo166,
I am not one of your "boys", and if your tired of our "bs", hit the ESC button on your computer and leave the forum. Were just hashing things out and proposing points and counterpoints. Your threatening demeanor and attitude on this forum is demeaning to the Profession. Ever stop to think your anger and brovado might prevent some pilots that want to "join" you on the line. Thats all I need on my record, would to be involved in a violent confrontation. Think of the ramifications and possible loss of Flight line clearance.
I'll practice MY solidarity with a monetary contribution and letters to my Reps, but as far from your line as I can be. Good Luck.
to jetgo166,
I am not one of your "boys", and if your tired of our "bs", hit the ESC button on your computer and leave the forum. Were just hashing things out and proposing points and counterpoints. Your threatening demeanor and attitude on this forum is demeaning to the Profession. Ever stop to think your anger and brovado might prevent some pilots that want to "join" you on the line. Thats all I need on my record, would to be involved in a violent confrontation. Think of the ramifications and possible loss of Flight line clearance.
I'll practice MY solidarity with a monetary contribution and letters to my Reps, but as far from your line as I can be. Good Luck.
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Sleeping Freight Dog said:
"I wonder why the "Freight Forwarders" had to go all the way to Canada
to find a replacement carrier, when all they had to do was look across
the ramp at MIA, Centurion, UPS, Florida West. I'm sure they all would
have loved to have the extra business. Hell, even Cargo Air Transport
is in the same state."
Because it was made very clear that if they did, they would have been shut down as well. In the end even THEY don't want to haul for David Bassett and the amazing "KandeeG."
There's a new website up for these guys.
teamstersonstrike.com
"I wonder why the "Freight Forwarders" had to go all the way to Canada
to find a replacement carrier, when all they had to do was look across
the ramp at MIA, Centurion, UPS, Florida West. I'm sure they all would
have loved to have the extra business. Hell, even Cargo Air Transport
is in the same state."
Because it was made very clear that if they did, they would have been shut down as well. In the end even THEY don't want to haul for David Bassett and the amazing "KandeeG."
There's a new website up for these guys.
teamstersonstrike.com
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What sympathy I did have for the Amerijet pilots was lost with the threat of violence from jetgo166. We call ourselves "professionals", yet have this fringe element constantly undermining our efforts to maintain the public's perception of it. I would venture a guess and say that we'd never see doctors stooping to such lows.
The youtube video with the Capt in a ball cap, no tie, sunglasses, and crossed arms didn't help the cause either. Children holding a picket sign smacks of "photo-op".
Best of luck guys, you're going to need it.
The youtube video with the Capt in a ball cap, no tie, sunglasses, and crossed arms didn't help the cause either. Children holding a picket sign smacks of "photo-op".
Best of luck guys, you're going to need it.
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jetgo166
Holy cow. You just single handedly undid much of the support your comrades had gained during this.
Want to be treated as a professional? GROW UP and act like one.
Hopefully, you aren't truly "one of us", and your just one of those forum wannabees that live to stir the pot a bit.
Good luck again to those fighting the good cause. If this schmuck is one of your own, may I suggest ISOLATING THIS BUM and staying on task without the stupidity!
Holy cow. You just single handedly undid much of the support your comrades had gained during this.
Want to be treated as a professional? GROW UP and act like one.
Hopefully, you aren't truly "one of us", and your just one of those forum wannabees that live to stir the pot a bit.
Good luck again to those fighting the good cause. If this schmuck is one of your own, may I suggest ISOLATING THIS BUM and staying on task without the stupidity!
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All jokes a side, I'm on the side of the pilots striking. But gaining support is going to be through make threats and starting fights!
But lets get real for a minute, you're striking when pilots are so abundant you will for sure get a ton to cross the picket line. You can blame them in good times, but its a dog eat world. I personally wouldn't cross the line, I enjoy not having fresh poop in a bag put on my car every day.
Either you poop in the bag in the air, or poop on the ground. EITHER WAY YOU ARE ALWAYS POOPING IN A BAG AMERIJET PILOTS! Might be the wrong time to strike, don't say?
I'm in favor of a strike, but not in this economy! You're just making it difficult for everybody. The unions wont change, management has to change!
But lets get real for a minute, you're striking when pilots are so abundant you will for sure get a ton to cross the picket line. You can blame them in good times, but its a dog eat world. I personally wouldn't cross the line, I enjoy not having fresh poop in a bag put on my car every day.
Either you poop in the bag in the air, or poop on the ground. EITHER WAY YOU ARE ALWAYS POOPING IN A BAG AMERIJET PILOTS! Might be the wrong time to strike, don't say?
I'm in favor of a strike, but not in this economy! You're just making it difficult for everybody. The unions wont change, management has to change!
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ugh, wally & bpp...
I'm not going to defend his comments, but until any of you have walked a mile in those shoes, you have nothing to say. Why should this profession have any less of a percentage of people who get wound up than any other? Again, I'm not defending it, you each need to take a step back yourselves.
Don't like pictures of kids on a picket line?? Who do you think is impacted when mom or dad doesn't get a decent paycheck? Ball caps and crossed arms? C'mon, get over yourselves. This isn't Hollywood, it's the real world.
These guys stood up and did something NO OTHER airline pilot group has ever been able to do. They got cross union support from labor unions everywhere!
Need proof?? Here's what came out tonight after they dug their heels in.
Good Evening All:
This e-mail correspondence will serve as notification that we have reached a tentative agreement with Amerijet International. Though this tentative agreement has been reached, we will continue to be on strike until a collective bargaining agreement is voted on over this coming weekend and is ratified by the membership.
Please note that, sometime tomorrow, we will be sending a copy of the entire document to be voted on to the e-mail addresses that we have on file and Amerijet will be posting it on CrewNet to ensure that everyone has ample time to review the collective bargaining agreement before it is voted on.
To answer any questions regarding the document, I will be available at the Union Hall on Thursday, September 10th and Friday, September 11th between 9:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. and 2:00 p.m. and 4:00 p.m.
The vote will be held at the Union Hall at 12365 West Dixie Highway , North Miami , Florida , 33161 on Saturday, September 12, 2009 between 12:00 p.m. (Noon) and 5:00 p.m. and Sunday, September 13, 2009 between 12:00 p.m. (Noon) and 5:00 p.m.
We urge everyone to carefully review the tentatively agreed to collective bargaining agreement, ask any questions you may have and vote on Saturday or Sunday.
Once the votes are counted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 5:00 p.m. all will be advised as to the outcome – whether we go back to work or we continue on strike.
I'm not going to defend his comments, but until any of you have walked a mile in those shoes, you have nothing to say. Why should this profession have any less of a percentage of people who get wound up than any other? Again, I'm not defending it, you each need to take a step back yourselves.
Don't like pictures of kids on a picket line?? Who do you think is impacted when mom or dad doesn't get a decent paycheck? Ball caps and crossed arms? C'mon, get over yourselves. This isn't Hollywood, it's the real world.
These guys stood up and did something NO OTHER airline pilot group has ever been able to do. They got cross union support from labor unions everywhere!
Need proof?? Here's what came out tonight after they dug their heels in.
Good Evening All:
This e-mail correspondence will serve as notification that we have reached a tentative agreement with Amerijet International. Though this tentative agreement has been reached, we will continue to be on strike until a collective bargaining agreement is voted on over this coming weekend and is ratified by the membership.
Please note that, sometime tomorrow, we will be sending a copy of the entire document to be voted on to the e-mail addresses that we have on file and Amerijet will be posting it on CrewNet to ensure that everyone has ample time to review the collective bargaining agreement before it is voted on.
To answer any questions regarding the document, I will be available at the Union Hall on Thursday, September 10th and Friday, September 11th between 9:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. and 2:00 p.m. and 4:00 p.m.
The vote will be held at the Union Hall at 12365 West Dixie Highway , North Miami , Florida , 33161 on Saturday, September 12, 2009 between 12:00 p.m. (Noon) and 5:00 p.m. and Sunday, September 13, 2009 between 12:00 p.m. (Noon) and 5:00 p.m.
We urge everyone to carefully review the tentatively agreed to collective bargaining agreement, ask any questions you may have and vote on Saturday or Sunday.
Once the votes are counted on Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 5:00 p.m. all will be advised as to the outcome – whether we go back to work or we continue on strike.
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Bit of advice... You should learn to shut up when ahead.
I will just figure you're a bit younger by some of the rants you have going on here...
Walk a mile in their shoes? Some of us have probably worn off more tread from the loafers building up this profession just to see it sold out by the next generation than you could ever imagine. Not all, mind you, but some.
I have certainly paid enough union dues in my day to come to the conclusions I have posted here. Big labor could care less about your bottom feeder dues. It's not enough to fill their coffee fund. Do some research! Actually have paid dues to more than one big union, only to have ended my career flying in a far away place, non union. Yep, those big unions worked me and my coworkers right out of a job. Money well spent, hugh?
Research how many ex Eastern "scabs" are now dues payin' folk. Your scab lists are fantasy ploys within a few years as stated before. ALPA and the likes know money is green no matter where it comes from.
Never felt a need to place the kiddos on the picket line, especially with some of the hotheads and safety concerns involved.
Never wore a Captain's hat, until of course, there I was walking probably closer to 10 miles in their shoes years ago.
Never!, and I mean never, would have stood in front of a camera all "gangsta" like spouting my cause (which agreeably is a good one) with out at least borrowing one of my fellow picketers ties.
Never would have made myself an informal spokesman for the group such as you have just to try and undermind the thought processes of those that have actually run the whole d@mn marathon in their shoes over the years.
To be treated as professionals, BE PROFESSIONALS! And know when to just shut up.
Bit of advice... You should learn to shut up when ahead.
I will just figure you're a bit younger by some of the rants you have going on here...
Walk a mile in their shoes? Some of us have probably worn off more tread from the loafers building up this profession just to see it sold out by the next generation than you could ever imagine. Not all, mind you, but some.
I have certainly paid enough union dues in my day to come to the conclusions I have posted here. Big labor could care less about your bottom feeder dues. It's not enough to fill their coffee fund. Do some research! Actually have paid dues to more than one big union, only to have ended my career flying in a far away place, non union. Yep, those big unions worked me and my coworkers right out of a job. Money well spent, hugh?
Research how many ex Eastern "scabs" are now dues payin' folk. Your scab lists are fantasy ploys within a few years as stated before. ALPA and the likes know money is green no matter where it comes from.
Never felt a need to place the kiddos on the picket line, especially with some of the hotheads and safety concerns involved.
Never wore a Captain's hat, until of course, there I was walking probably closer to 10 miles in their shoes years ago.
Never!, and I mean never, would have stood in front of a camera all "gangsta" like spouting my cause (which agreeably is a good one) with out at least borrowing one of my fellow picketers ties.
Never would have made myself an informal spokesman for the group such as you have just to try and undermind the thought processes of those that have actually run the whole d@mn marathon in their shoes over the years.
To be treated as professionals, BE PROFESSIONALS! And know when to just shut up.
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Ugwhatajob
"Eastern" Let me tell something almost six month on the picket line, there has never been a greater work force that effected the change in our industry than the Eastern Pilots! You should tip your hat. No one has ever been on strike, that long, and I worked in the ALPA office. So for you and everybody lets stay strong and work to make our JOB the the best in the world. God Bless You .
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jetgo166 a.k.a. "Highly Paid Construction Worker" a.k.a. Michael Syrvalin a.k.a. Internet Tough Guy and last but not certainly not least a.k.a. colossal idiot. Mr. Syrvalin does play many roles these days (most of them played with a heavy dose of alcohol beforehand). Gentlemen, Mr. Syrvalin is a man on a mission. Problem is that mission is not to see our brethren get a fair contract but to see amerijet burn at all costs.
This man does not have amerijet's pilots best interests in mind. The sole reason he is involved in this ordeal is to "get back" at amerijet for perceived injustices at the hands of the company during his employment with them.
This is not a man you want making decisions for you. He will place his selfish need for vengeance over anyone or anything.
This man does not have amerijet's pilots best interests in mind. The sole reason he is involved in this ordeal is to "get back" at amerijet for perceived injustices at the hands of the company during his employment with them.
This is not a man you want making decisions for you. He will place his selfish need for vengeance over anyone or anything.
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I'm confident that his bretheren will address the issue with him. It's sad to see anyone bent on destruction that will harm others as well.
As to my age and background, nope, not Amerijet and thanks for implying I'm "young." These 50 year old bones appreciate that.
"One Day Longer"
As to my age and background, nope, not Amerijet and thanks for implying I'm "young." These 50 year old bones appreciate that.
"One Day Longer"
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As i have already said the youtube video was done impromtu after over 12hours in the Florida sun, and the 'baseball cap' is a teamsters cap who over whelmingly supported us.We will vote on a contract this weekend, so i guess the folded arms, the sunglasses and no tie didn't do too much damage.
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ACP:
I have been told the details and it does, to an outsider, seem better. (How could it get worse?) First contracts are never great, they tend to be either work rules or pay based, but they do get rules in place and set a framework for the future. They also allow the union to continue a dialog with management to hopefully inprove conditions during the term of the deal and if necessary, file grievances over areas of conflict.
That said, since I'm not an Amerijet pilot but a proud supporter of them, I think it would be inappropriate of me to discuss the terms. I'm sure some of their guys will do so when they can.
Until then...KEEP THE LINE STRONG!!!
I have been told the details and it does, to an outsider, seem better. (How could it get worse?) First contracts are never great, they tend to be either work rules or pay based, but they do get rules in place and set a framework for the future. They also allow the union to continue a dialog with management to hopefully inprove conditions during the term of the deal and if necessary, file grievances over areas of conflict.
That said, since I'm not an Amerijet pilot but a proud supporter of them, I think it would be inappropriate of me to discuss the terms. I'm sure some of their guys will do so when they can.
Until then...KEEP THE LINE STRONG!!!
