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Avient making headlines again

Old 31st May 2009, 09:51
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Avient making headlines again

I see Avient are making headlines again this week in the air cargo press for all the wrong reasons like Gun running and Diamond smuggling, even though Mr Smith strongly denies all the accusations, there's no smoke without fire you only have to speak to some of their ex employee's to learn of some of the SPARKLING revelations, in the things they carry around Africa. Obviously the statement flag of convenience must play some small part especially coming from Zimbabwe.
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Avient making headlines again

Can't be true - see Avient's own website http://www.avient.aero/EmbargoGoods.htm
Unless anyone you know knows better
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Charter Man, take it you are not being serious?
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They do say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I prefer to think of it as an ironic comment.....
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Apparently the Air Cargo News article has found it's way on to the desk of some important people in Washington involved in US government contracts, which may have some serious implications for the planned Iraq venture.
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Old 2nd Jun 2009, 20:26
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The wheel is round and sometimes turns slowly, but it turns.

If true it took them an awfully long time to wake up to the reality!
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Sometimes it's expedient for the wheels to turn slowly, sometimes the movement is barely perceptible. . .
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Old 2nd Aug 2009, 16:37
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Well it is not a US Government contract. The Federal Authorities have no say.

Vatry to Baghdad started a couple of weeks ago, according to their website. I think you under-estimate the influence of the US government Fogrunner, trust me - they have a lot of "say" in that part of the world.
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Old 6th Aug 2009, 16:04
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Major news?

The jungle drums are beating load about a forthcoming "major announcement" - any word out there?
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Major News

Not sure about any announcement, but seems they have cancelled their scheduled flights into Lagos last few days.
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Major News

And................still waiting.
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Major News

I hear there is panic among the crews and they are looking for new jobs, the 40% pay cut must of really hurt.

There is a strong murmering they will cease ops to today.
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Old 10th Aug 2009, 12:39
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If they are to cease ops......thats the first rumour i`ve heard. I thought all was well with them ?

Thrax were does you info come from ?
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I hear they have lost their Traffic Rights into Baghdad for their new scheduled service that they started a couple of weeks ago. Andrew Smith ? Couldn't happen to a nicer chap.............
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Isn't that just typical Smith trying to go one better than everyone else, MK cuts pay by 20% so he goes 40%?!
Anyway, all this must be rubbish as he has been telling his crews he is getting a fleet of MD11's to replace the DC10's.
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They are due to fly tonight out of LFOK but that could be a smoke screen.

I would like to know where you think a fleet of MD11s is going to come from, Fedex and UPS have taken all the available units.

Avient are always in the press about this and that, why are they now being so tight lipped do they have something to hide?

hmmm me thinks
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Avient always have something to hide.
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Afraid have to agree with 747Comet. There are no idle MD11's standing around available to be snapped up.
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Some of you lot have no clue at all, I could find ten MD11's now available for purchase or lease, so what does that say about your comments. Only open your mouths if you know what you are talking about.

If you do not know that the World is awash with aircraft then what do you know about anything else you claim!
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Even if the world was awash with spare aircraft and there was a few MD11's parked up, you will find that they are all on the reserved list for the likes of FedEX who can afford to put down a retaining deposit on all the available airframes. If Andrew Smith has managed to convince any of his crews he has the financial clout to go head to head with the likes of FedEX in a bidding war over any available MD11's then either his crews are extremely naive of he is a better and bigger conman than most people take him for (and that may be a possibility).
There has been more talk recently from his warren on salisbury plains of his change of plans now to go with Airbus to replace the 10's! At the end of the day if things get too tough, my money is on the outfit being offered to his buddy bob for nationalisation. This prospect has been on the cards for a long time and was hinted at by one of bobs cronies a few years ago.
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