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SNAM
Yes there is, it's a Group Personal Pension, run by Winterthur, with company contributions of c.10.5% for captains and c. 8% for first officers. (It's based on a strange formula, hence the varying contribution levels).
Yes there is, it's a Group Personal Pension, run by Winterthur, with company contributions of c.10.5% for captains and c. 8% for first officers. (It's based on a strange formula, hence the varying contribution levels).
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European Air Transport
Van toepassing vanaf 01/03/05(Inclusief 2% index)
Loonschalen Vliegend Personeel
B757 + A300 B757 + A300
Ancienniteit
F/O / F/E Capt
Maandelijks Maandelijks
EURO EURO
In Opl*1395.83 1395.83
0 2866.10 6091.36
1 3295.99 6213.19
2 4119.36 6337.45
3 4201.75 6464.20
4 4285.79 6593.48
5 4371.51 6725.35
6 4458.94 6859.86
7 4548.12 6997.06
8 4639.08 7137.00
9 4731.86 7279.74
10 4826.50 7425.33
11 4923.03 7573.84
12 5021.49 7725.32
13 5121.92 7879.83
14 5224.36 8037.43
15 5328.85 8198.18
16 5435.43 8362.14
17 5544.14 8529.38
18 5655.02 8699.97
19 5768.12 8873.97
20 5883.48 9051.45
21 6001.15 9232.48
22 6121.17 9417.13
23 6243.59 9605.47
24 6368.46 9797.58
25 6495.83 9993.53
salary/salary scales Pilots
index 2% 01-01-2004
problably not up to date but this is the only thing i have
Neil
Van toepassing vanaf 01/03/05(Inclusief 2% index)
Loonschalen Vliegend Personeel
B757 + A300 B757 + A300
Ancienniteit
F/O / F/E Capt
Maandelijks Maandelijks
EURO EURO
In Opl*1395.83 1395.83
0 2866.10 6091.36
1 3295.99 6213.19
2 4119.36 6337.45
3 4201.75 6464.20
4 4285.79 6593.48
5 4371.51 6725.35
6 4458.94 6859.86
7 4548.12 6997.06
8 4639.08 7137.00
9 4731.86 7279.74
10 4826.50 7425.33
11 4923.03 7573.84
12 5021.49 7725.32
13 5121.92 7879.83
14 5224.36 8037.43
15 5328.85 8198.18
16 5435.43 8362.14
17 5544.14 8529.38
18 5655.02 8699.97
19 5768.12 8873.97
20 5883.48 9051.45
21 6001.15 9232.48
22 6121.17 9417.13
23 6243.59 9605.47
24 6368.46 9797.58
25 6495.83 9993.53
salary/salary scales Pilots
index 2% 01-01-2004
problably not up to date but this is the only thing i have
Neil
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Snam,
Given the social security payments, the extra (compulsory) pilot SS payments and the extremely high rate of personal income tax, expect to lose 60% of your gross unless you can arrange an 'ex-pat'
contract. Could be difficult as all future contracts are supposed to be Leipzig based.
Given the social security payments, the extra (compulsory) pilot SS payments and the extremely high rate of personal income tax, expect to lose 60% of your gross unless you can arrange an 'ex-pat'
contract. Could be difficult as all future contracts are supposed to be Leipzig based.
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SNAM, that will be about 2700 a 3000 a month (net) once after line training and flying a good roster... (depending per diems etc)
And second, there are no German contracts, and (at EAT) never will be.
Normally within months or so, they will start giving LEJ based contracts, but EAT stays a Belgian company , with Belgian AOC. So contracts are Belgian, just a different base.
1 or 2 weeks ago, 10 new guys started and they have all received, Brussels based contracts...
We'll see... but for now everything is very good here at EAT, there are always people complaining. And the guys who like it here, you simply don't hear, unfortunately
But here's one!
And second, there are no German contracts, and (at EAT) never will be.
Normally within months or so, they will start giving LEJ based contracts, but EAT stays a Belgian company , with Belgian AOC. So contracts are Belgian, just a different base.
1 or 2 weeks ago, 10 new guys started and they have all received, Brussels based contracts...
We'll see... but for now everything is very good here at EAT, there are always people complaining. And the guys who like it here, you simply don't hear, unfortunately
But here's one!
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CJ,
Do some proper research before joining...
.............read this. http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=272102
Do some proper research before joining...
.............read this. http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=272102
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DHL lifestyle
I have read most of what is written about dhl, good and bad, but i was wondering if there are any newish first officers that could perhaps give me an insight of what their lifestyle is like at the moment?
Curiously, I have freinds who swear blind that working freight is a total nightmare on the social life. I find it difficult to believe considering DHL pilots tend to do about 350 hours a year. And the money is just as good, if not better than pax flying pilots.
so , lin essence: Less time at work and more money to live life with!......or am i wrong?
any comments appreciated
Curiously, I have freinds who swear blind that working freight is a total nightmare on the social life. I find it difficult to believe considering DHL pilots tend to do about 350 hours a year. And the money is just as good, if not better than pax flying pilots.
so , lin essence: Less time at work and more money to live life with!......or am i wrong?
any comments appreciated
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At the moment we're getting about eight days a month off. That's eight days at home in a whole month! The rest is spent in crew rooms and hotels with a bit of flying in between.
Typically , I'm doing five on two off, sometimes seven on three off and I've had more than one pattern that consisted of seven on one off and then six on!
It should compare favorably with other airlines for time off, but not the way they are working it at the moment.
On your two days off at home you will be shattered from the duty during the week and just about the time you get sorted, you're back at work again.
They are looking at improving the roster, but they have been making promises about that for years now and no solution in sight.
They'll tell you at the interview that it works out to about even days off and on but that simply isn't true.
the vast numbers leaving at the moment (five this week) aren't improving the roster situation either.
Typically , I'm doing five on two off, sometimes seven on three off and I've had more than one pattern that consisted of seven on one off and then six on!
It should compare favorably with other airlines for time off, but not the way they are working it at the moment.
On your two days off at home you will be shattered from the duty during the week and just about the time you get sorted, you're back at work again.
They are looking at improving the roster, but they have been making promises about that for years now and no solution in sight.
They'll tell you at the interview that it works out to about even days off and on but that simply isn't true.
the vast numbers leaving at the moment (five this week) aren't improving the roster situation either.
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"What about the Leave, is it easy to get what you generally want?"
Generally yes, particularly if you apply early enough. And any days off required should not be a problem if the rosters have not been issued. The rosters are generally issued around the middle of the month, for the month after next i.e July roster issued by middle of May (don't think too many can beat that).
Rostering team considered to be pretty much the best in the business, constrained only by the numbers they have to work with.
Generally yes, particularly if you apply early enough. And any days off required should not be a problem if the rosters have not been issued. The rosters are generally issued around the middle of the month, for the month after next i.e July roster issued by middle of May (don't think too many can beat that).
Rostering team considered to be pretty much the best in the business, constrained only by the numbers they have to work with.
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DHL life Style
I'm working for them since quite a long time Itch. Flying Cargo is not the problem ....the biggest issue is that the management is unable to respect people and if you add a useless training dept and scheduling practices that allows them to make you flight more than 12 Hrs a night, you'll realize that after having lost your girl friend (wife ??) bcs you're never home,do not expect any rewards from the company for the hard work you did...not a thanks
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Be aware that DHL runs 2 airlines in Europe. DHL Air, and EAT. FTLs are different and DHL Air are restricted by CAP 371 (with some variations) and do not fly for more than 12 hours. As has been said, people are working hard at the moment, noone will try to hide that, but I find it does suit my life well, and normally get to see plenty of my (very young) family.
I work for DHL Air. It has its issues for sure, and some that some are leaving over, put you makes your own choices about what will suit you the best. Listen very carefully to what is said in these pages, some is severely over stated. As I said the issues that have been mentioned elsewhere are concerning, but for me the lifestyle has and will, I am sure be again, reasonable compemsation
I work for DHL Air. It has its issues for sure, and some that some are leaving over, put you makes your own choices about what will suit you the best. Listen very carefully to what is said in these pages, some is severely over stated. As I said the issues that have been mentioned elsewhere are concerning, but for me the lifestyle has and will, I am sure be again, reasonable compemsation