Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Freight Dogs
Reload this Page >

Cargolux details requested!

Wikiposts
Search
Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.

Cargolux details requested!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 8th Dec 2010, 18:38
  #701 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hm, when I started, there was definatelly no need for an european passport.
We still have lots of US, Canadians, South Africans and NZ working for us.
But that could have changed recently with increasing number of applications.
Pow-wow is more likely up-to-date as he has the infos first hand from HR.

Sorry guys not to have better news...

Cheers
Mr.Nomads
Mr.Nomads is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2010, 00:15
  #702 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: de
Age: 46
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
starting date

Hello forum people!
I would like to thank everyone in this beautiful thread for the information that has been shared so far about Cargolux, more precisely about the process of application (Saarlouis + Interview).

Especially I would like to mention loulou with his post #391 http://www.pprune.org/4776899-post391.html which is very close to that what happened to me in Saarlouis a couple of weeks ago, and I mean veeeeeery close

Anyone in here got a starting date in March 2011?

-blue skies
AM737 is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2010, 01:51
  #703 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: anywhere cheap
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If it helps there is another A300 freight operation starting in Shajah soon. Think they are looking for qualified crews. Try [email protected]
pork chop is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2010, 11:17
  #704 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: All over the world
Age: 40
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Starting date March 2011 as well!
PH-JPC is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2010, 12:05
  #705 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Brussels
Age: 42
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm starting on the 28th of February.. We'll probably meet in the office then!!
quianor is offline  
Old 12th Dec 2010, 23:57
  #706 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 66º NORTH
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi there,

according to the interpersonal.de web, it says "According to the latest corporate planning there will be a small demand for pilots and only a limited number of vacant positions in the year 2010!"

Can anybody confirm if there is any recruiting going on and what sort of experience they are looking at.

Thanks in advance
atila_101 is offline  
Old 13th Dec 2010, 22:27
  #707 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can someone provide examples of average time and experience for recent newhires? What is competitive nowadays in terms of flight hours?

Also, for people with airline backgrounds hired recently, which airlines are the most frequent sources of new Cargolux pilots? Luxair? Air Berlin? Ryanair?

Cheers
Iver is offline  
Old 13th Dec 2010, 23:03
  #708 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: All over the world
Age: 40
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FYI

Can someone provide examples of average time and experience for recent newhires? What is competitive nowadays in terms of flight hours?

Also, for people with airline backgrounds hired recently, which airlines are the most frequent sources of new Cargolux pilots? Luxair? Air Berlin? Ryanair?

27yrs old, 3500+ hrs (2300 B737, 1000 turboprop).
Including a lot of non-standard experience in Africa, Central Asia.
Now flying 737 for Dutch charter company.
PH-JPC is offline  
Old 13th Dec 2010, 23:40
  #709 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 66º NORTH
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Quite a similar background as PH here, is people with narrowbody stand a chance or will they only look at people current on 744?
atila_101 is offline  
Old 14th Dec 2010, 04:32
  #710 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: USA
Posts: 292
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What are the trips like at Cargolux? What type of rosters? Cheers.
Donkey Duke is offline  
Old 28th Dec 2010, 14:48
  #711 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: belgium
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ATTC?

Hello all,

I'm about to apply for cargolux and I'm looking into the prepartion for the tests on day 1. This forum is wonderfully well documented, thank you all.
However, there's one thing I couldn't find, or maybe I looked right passed it. Is it worth investing money in a company like ATTC to prepare the tests? Did some of you prepare for those tests with a similar institution and if so, do you think it helped?

I thank you all for your reply and insight.
Wishing you all a Happy New Year!

WOO
wiseoldowl is offline  
Old 30th Dec 2010, 09:08
  #712 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Garden shed
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hello wiseoldowl,

Again, my test day is more than 3 years ago now, but I did not do any ATTC type preparations.

I dont know if their training is of any use for the Cargolux assesment ?
Lots of these companies say they prepare you for all sorts of airlines, but in the end I think they just do a standard logic/iq training course (if there is such a thing?!?)

I had a few "off-the-shelf" logic trainer books that you can readily get in most bookshops, but again, I dont think they made a huge difference either.

I have no idea if anyone else in Cargolux did the ATTC stuff ?

@Donkey Dude

Best way to describe it is, that there is no "standard" roster.

The previous discussions in this thread on rosters before are still current, and give a pretty fair estimation I would say (the good and the bad ).
Pow-wow is offline  
Old 30th Dec 2010, 15:57
  #713 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: austria
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hi, stay away from ATTC. it is crap. i know several people , who were there ,and every single one said, it was useless.
RollsRoyce36 is offline  
Old 31st Dec 2010, 14:13
  #714 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: All over the world
Age: 40
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Never heard of ATTC... just reading this entire thread 20 times is preparation enough!
PH-JPC is offline  
Old 4th Jan 2011, 20:53
  #715 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: belgium
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you for your replies!
wiseoldowl is offline  
Old 10th Jan 2011, 19:53
  #716 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Germany
Age: 39
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hello everyone,
does anyone have a clue if there is a possibility to get a closer look to the "Cargolux Airlines Collective Work Agreement"?

Any idea what the salary for a 26yrs old single without kids would be?
No 747 rating. 3000hrs B737NG. What would the starting pay be in the first year?

Thank you all.

Best regards,
Frolic
Frolic is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2011, 13:32
  #717 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ---
Posts: 282
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi have a look at my post #242: http://www.pprune.org/3634135-post242.html
Except that basic salary for first year FOs has increased to 4515 due to the Lux. index increase. The system is that a "index 100" scale is published in the CWA, and every once in a while the number with which this basic index 100 scale is being multiplied increases. This is a Nationwide inflation adjustment of salaries.

Today, the index is at 719,84
Index 100 1st yr salary is 627,34
-> basic salary today as a jrFO is (719,84*627,34)/100= 4515EUR.

After 600 hrs on type you'll go to the FO scale, with the first Time Unit being 678,04 at index 100,
After having 600hrs on type and a total time of more than 3500hrs, you'll be in the srFO scale, with TU1 being 735,08

In practice, most new hirees will jump from the TU1 jrFO scale to the TU2 srFO scale since mostly you'll have 600hrs in your first year and most have >3000hrs once they're hired anyway, so after 1 year you'll have both 600hrs on type and the 3500 hrs.

So for now, your first year basic is 4515EUR, your second year basic 5455EUR.
Today: pension contribution is 8%, legal health insurance is 2,7% and a dependency insurance of 1,4%

Use these numbers for the steps I mentioned in post 252, and use this calculator:
https://saturn.etat.lu/cobar/baremePP.jsp Use "salarie mensuel" and "classe impot" 1/0 since you're single. If you're married, you'll select 2/0.
If the calculator doesn't work, look at the .pdf version of the scales (page 39 and onward..)
http://www.impotsdirects.public.lu/l...embre_2010.pdf

As further info, for special hours, an hourly rate is used. You'll find out your hourly rate by dividing your basic salary by 173.

Holiday supplement is 100% of the hourly rate
Sunday supplement is 70% of the hourly rate,
Vacation supplement is 40% of hourly rate,
Night supplement is 25% of the hourly rate.
These supplements are not taxed, but you'll have to pay the 12,1% pension/social cost over them.

For the first 3 supplements mentioned (Holiday, Sunday, Vacation), the minimum counted duty day is 8 hrs.
So if you have 1 day of vacation, you'll receive 8*40% your hourly rate.
Per year you'll receive 42 days of VAC, so that's already 42*8*40% your hourly rate you'll have in a year on top of your basic.
A duty of 5 hrs or for example a day of layover on a Sunday will get you 8*70% your hourly rate. 10hrs duty on a legal holiday will get you 10*100% of the hourly rate.

Roughly, the net you'll receive is at least as much as the basic gross number.
Don't forget the Per Diem either!

Horribly complicated, but it comes down to the point that the money is ok..

Last edited by ray cosmic; 11th Jan 2011 at 17:13. Reason: some numbers were mixed up.. now correct!
ray cosmic is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2011, 14:08
  #718 (permalink)  
LBR
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: France
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Horribly complicated, but it comes down to the point that the money is ok..
Haha, complicated it is but it doesn't take long to get used to the numbers!
Where in the CWA can I find the 20%/40% vacation supplement??
LBR is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2011, 15:20
  #719 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Germany
Age: 39
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
@ray_cosmic:
thank you very much for this detailed information. Now I have an better idea about the whole thing.
Thanks.
Frolic is offline  
Old 13th Jan 2011, 14:12
  #720 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Whoville
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hello there

Any stories flying around on newhires in the new year?
1975 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.