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cannot 14th September 2020 05:38

Cathay to park a/c long term
 
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...it-grounds-two

As one reader posted , collapse HK’s economy for 100 deaths , HK is handling the Covid crisis well but at what cost to the general population and economy

Curry Lamb 14th September 2020 07:27

Standard cry wolf, scaremongering, sky falling reporting as we move closer to open season on 1 October.
Danny boy collecting some good overtime and commission this month. Yawn

Jetdream 14th September 2020 07:45

Is there anything official on this or is it another one from his ‘source’?
He is talking as if it’s from the company but I can’t find jack.

unitedabx 14th September 2020 08:03

60 parking slots in Alice Springs booked with 27 already taken. Another 24 booked in Arizona. You do the maths.

MENELAUS 14th September 2020 10:13

Inside sources again ? Wrong as usual. In fact the sunnier climes of Central Spain are more likely for some of our aircraft.

And the Swedish model is looking pretty damn good at the moment.

LLLQNH 14th September 2020 10:52


Originally Posted by Globocnik (Post 10884960)
Inside sources again ? Wrong as usual. In fact the sunnier climes of Central Spain are more likely for some of our aircraft.

And the Swedish model is looking pretty damn good at the moment.

Don't know about Spain. But Tarbes in France is going to be used for some of the Airbus fleet from CX and KA as they have the approvals apparently. Anyway who cares where they get parked/abandoned the fact the fleets are shrinking is what is concerning.


unitedabx 14th September 2020 10:52


Originally Posted by Globocnik (Post 10884960)
Inside sources again ? Wrong as usual. In fact the sunnier climes of Central Spain are more likely for some of our aircraft.

And the Swedish model is looking pretty damn good at the moment.


Spanish parking resorts FULL.

BuzzBox 14th September 2020 11:46


Originally Posted by Jetdream (Post 10884812)
Is there anything official on this or is it another one from his ‘source’?
He is talking as if it’s from the company but I can’t find jack.

See p.4 of the following release, published on the HKEX website:
https://www1.hkexnews.hk/listedco/li...0091400293.pdf

Also on the CX website:
https://www.cathaypacific.com/conten...n_locrechk.pdf

AllWobbly 14th September 2020 12:16


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10885009)
Spanish parking resorts FULL.

No they’re not.

Curry Lamb 14th September 2020 13:25

The need to restructure the CX group is not only as a result of the havoc the china plague has caused, but started a couple of years ago.
Umbrella movement, Trade War, Riots and the latest Security law - broke the camel's back.

The sooner everyone wakes up to the fact that Hong Kong is now just another mainland city, and CX just another mainland airline (competing with big players and LCC alike), the better.

The muppets up north has successfully managed to kill off tourism to HK, expats in the banking and retail sectors are shipping out in droves, the local rich are emigrating.

When the aviation sector recovers, demand will be for direct flights from China to wherever, no need to transit HK, unless airfares are rock bottom, which brings us back to LCCs again.

Therefore the need for "deep cuts" and restructuring.


unitedabx 14th September 2020 13:32


Originally Posted by Curry Lamb (Post 10885107)
The need to restructure the CX group is not only as a result of the havoc the china plague has caused, but started a couple of years ago.
Umbrella movement, Trade War, Riots and the latest Security law - broke the camel's back.

The sooner everyone wakes up to the fact that Hong Kong is now just another mainland city, and CX just another mainland airline (competing with big players and LCC alike), the better.

The muppets up north has successfully managed to kill off tourism to HK, expats in the banking and retail sectors are shipping out in droves, the local rich are emigrating.

When the aviation sector recovers, demand will be for direct flights from China to wherever, no need to transit HK, unless airfares are rock bottom, which brings us back to LCCs again.

Therefore the need for "deep cuts" and restructuring.


Don"t forget the own goal by Merlin with the fuel hedging.

Angel 8 14th September 2020 14:15

Curry and united, Though your analysis are correct to some extent, none of the events you mentioned are World changers.
COVID-19 has, and we have to live with this FACT, changed our world for a very long time to come.
What CX will do next is a response to this pandemic, full stop.
Some of us will loose our jobs as a result, some of us may not get another job again.

Curry Lamb 14th September 2020 15:21


Originally Posted by Angel 8 (Post 10885129)
COVID-19 has, and we have to live with this FACT, changed our world for a very long time to come.

Totally disagree my angel. The "clever people" predict 2-4 years until pre-virus travel is back to 100% capacity, and with a vaccine, even earlier.

What has changed forever and getting worse by the day, is Beijings hard handed tactics in HK, with total disregard for any International Laws and Human Rights.

Western countries are warning their citizens to think twice before living in, travelling to OR transitting HK, as it's apparently a major crime now if you've so much as "liked" a post by Joshua, or agreed with Fanny when she called a CCP cadre an A*hole :ugh:

Angel 8 14th September 2020 16:03


Originally Posted by Curry Lamb (Post 10885176)
Totally disagree my angel. The "clever people" predict 2-4 years until pre-virus travel is back to 100% capacity, and with a vaccine, even earlier.

But don’t you think, my delicious Curry, that business people have already found ways to do their bit without travelling, and also to old folk like me, 2-4 years is a very long time, as who would employ me when I’m 61?
We also have to look at the past to predict the future: Political differences never affect travel, neither does short term unrest, otherwise why would anyone want to have holidays in Brazil, Israel, Egypt, etc...
Travel, would go back to some normality, but certainly not to (100%) Don’t misunderstand my message, as I really hope I’m wrong.

Anti Skid On 14th September 2020 16:19

Many Northern hemisphere punters transit HK as a hub for Aussie and NZ (and vice versa); CX offered a wide range of destinations at both ends of the world. As Aussie and NZ are going to have their borders closed for the foreseeable future those saying things will be back to normal in 2 - 4 years will be eating their words. Nobody is really going to want to fly half way round the world and then have to be in quarantine (in the NZ context at NZ$3000 for the privilege) before having the holiday or family visit.

There have already been mutations of the virus and people who have been infected a second time; the long term consequences affecting health are starting to emerge too. Sadly this has screwed everything we knew before 2020

Dannyboy39 14th September 2020 18:05

What exactly is the plan for HK (and everybody else in Asia for that matter?) Just hunker down until it disappears?

Clearly, we can't keep doing this forever. Whilst a vaccine looks odds on to be found by someone, it'll take a long, long time to roll it out globally.

Surely there has to be some joined up thinking and dare I say it, some pragmatism like we're seeing in Europe (although it certainly isn't universal). There is limited evidence that quarantining people, or banning people altogether, has an effect on infections when the virus is already ingrained in the population.

Krone 14th September 2020 20:00

Cx and KA are the safest places to be as a pilot. Full pay. Everyone else is shedding, hk just stagnant.
Be grateful for your isolation.

AndyBrown350 15th September 2020 11:05


Originally Posted by Curry Lamb (Post 10885176)
What has changed forever and getting worse by the day, is Beijings hard handed tactics in HK, with total disregard for any International Laws and Human Rights.

Out of curiosity captain, which international laws?

JMock 16th September 2020 06:31


Originally Posted by AndyBrown350 (Post 10885773)
Out of curiosity captain, which international laws?

A treaty is an agreement between sovereign States (countries) and in some cases international organisations, which is binding at international law.

Assume the Sino British Joint Declaration is being referred to as it is a Treaty lodged with the UN

AndyBrown350 16th September 2020 06:40


Originally Posted by JMock (Post 10886340)
A treaty is an agreement between sovereign States (countries) and in some cases international organisations, which is binding at international law.

Assume the Sino British Joint Declaration is being referred to as it is a Treaty lodged with the UN

Thank you for the respectful answer to my question, quite strange nowadays on pprune...


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