CX SO application
 

Hey just noticed the second officer position opened up. They added the 1000 hours and MCC preferred the experience. Is there a lot of competition for the role? What is the T and C? Is it better? Is it still 6 years plus before the upgrade to FO? Also on a side track, the application asked if I was interested in HK Express. I thought they only flew the A320. What are they going to do with a SO in that kind of flight? Is the flight that long in HK Express that they required an SO... bit blizzard. Is the upgrade to FO quicker in HK express?

Second Officer is a pay point at Express, really a Junior First Officer. A second Officer at Cathay is generally a Cruise relief Co Pilot but can also be a Junior First Officer on the A320 fleet.

Yeah but at least you have the TR for the 320. Still better than a p2x rating in my opinion

Defo
 

Out of interest has anyone who applied late last year heard back for DEFO applications?

An SO at HKE is still one of the only two pilots on the flight deck. They do the same as an FO, they just get paid less. They do at least have a type rating. A CX SO doesn’t have a type rating.

when did you apply?

whiskey1 , thanks for your comment. Interesting thread folks.. Hoping to learn more as well, DESO to me seemed like it was geared to accept newly minted aviation academy grads, or from other airlines with the miniumum seat time: https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...-entry-2977238

That looks like direct entry SO. No mention of any Hong Kong ID / right to work required. About 9k usd per month if you're doing 900 hours a year on the current amendment of the handbook. About 6k if you're not hitting the flight pay threshold that month. You'd be behind a long line of SO's, so 6 years seems about right. Up to you. Everyones circumstances are different, as is their tolerance level. Express you'll be paid less, but advance light years quicker.

Many other airlines will accept P2X times, pays to check with the regulator in the country you want to work in how you should log flight time (most have all crew log total block time, not just the Capt).

Out of curiosity, Does SO in Cathay not have any type rating even though they fly the plain?

Specifically which ones? I've only heard of Condor and very few others.

Because P2X is a made up rating not recognized by international convention. It is a bizarre rating conjured up by Cathay and approved by the Hong Kong Civil Aviation Departement so Cathay could employ the most inexperienced pilots; and avoid the expensive cost of training a new pilot up to P1 standard, which requires more simulator hours and avoids the additional expense of in flight base training.

Compare that to the US requirement that a pilot possess an Airline Transport Pilot Licence, have 1500 hours of experience and a full P1 rating to be allowed to occupy the right seat of a commercial airliner.

Good point Raven. The traveling public of HK (and our outports) are effectively being put at risk to a far higher degree than would be allowed in the US. We have inexperienced children in control (when the relief captain goes to the restroom) of a large airliner. The HK traveling public has no idea of the reality of their peril. Our management is complicit in this, and will be held accountable when the inevitable tragedy occurs. CX management is beyond redemption. They are willing to line their own pockets at the expense of the passengers they are supposed to protect. Disgusting

No they won’t. They’ll get away with it. They always get away with it.

I just hope it’s an incident and not an accident that causes the spotlight to be shone.

Hiring Time
 

Hi Guys. Im an Indonesian Pilot, TT 500, 250 Is On A DHC6400 Amphibian, Flying Out of Bali and Multi Crew. Anyone Knows How Long does Cathay Reply Back Since Initial Application. I have been waiting for abt 20 days. Thank You!

My resume was submitted 2022/09 and got their reply this year Jan so ... just be patient lol might be much faster now.

me too ,20+ days ,no reply yet.

After the interview
 

Anyone recently just come back from HK and finished the interview ? Been waiting almost a month and still haven't heard back from cx , they did however tell me I get a medical

it’s depends on your background experience mas galih,

i received the email for filling out the form,third days after submit the application.
And i done everything initial interview and final assessment couple weeks ago.

did they give you a time frame when you would find out ?

you done the final interview also ? One of my friend received rejection email 1 weeks after.

Yea done the interview just waiting on results , I know of a candidate who got their rejection 2 weeks after

they just mention A couple weeks.

my friend received the email about 2 weeks

Hi,
good day brother..I have got my final assessment coming up in few weeks from now. Just to get more sort of an update from you, will it be possible to chat personally on whatsapp?

whats your Total Hours and Background Mas? if I may know? Thank You

At this point only concern of the most of the traveling public is ticket price
They hear "autopilot "and it is near impossible to convince them it is not just as easy as throwing dirty
clothes in SAMSUNG front loader and pushing the start button.

Good day everyone,

I was successful in the CX DESO application, still waiting for a the offer of employment. I’ve made my interest in the narrow body operation at HKE express clear as well. Does anyone have more info on how this works and some more insight into Cathay SO’s working at Express?

Regards,
Cirrostratus

Do you mind if I PM directly? I'm chatting with a recruiter now and not entirely sure she knows what she's talking about...

Timeframe
 

What are the current contact time frames for people?
Initial application, medical in confidence, final interview.

Hi,

Just wonder, does someone know which is the hardest part of the DESO assessment? Ie. Most people failed on which part of the assessment (Sim check? Panel Interview etc?)

DESO asssesment
 

Sim check definitely. They stick to the profile, there’s nothing unexpected, but most guys who fail just can’t keep up with the speed and momentum of the aircraft. See if you can do a prep session, even on the A320, before your sim check.

Hi Sidharth86,

I'm going to the final assessment for SO in june.
Could you share your experience on sim assessment and panel interview?

They mentioned the sim could either be on airbus / boeing, but I heard most are on B777?


Many thanks!

Hi Cirrostratusss,

I have some questions on the sim check & panel inteview. Would you mind DM me?


Many thanks!

Hey everyone,

I made it to the final interview for the Second Officer Direct Entry position! I'm looking for any suggestions or tips on how to prepare for the interview. If you have any advice, please PM me. Additionally, would love to make some contacts there. Any help would be greatly appreciated!