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raven11 2nd Jul 2023 21:33


MENELAUS 2nd Jul 2023 22:17

Patently a ******* expert. From his garret in ‘Westminster’. You have to give social media its credit. An expert sat on his shiny arse around every corner.

Climbpowder 2nd Jul 2023 23:23


Originally Posted by Oasis (Post 11460347)
Have you considered that the reason the evacuation never happened in the front, was that the pilots stopped them in time, but were unable to cancel the order in the back?

I'm just spitballing here, as we don't know what happened, this is a rumour platform after all.
There are crazy Captains, there are crazy ISMs, I'm sure you've flown with many of them.

I am more careful before considering everyone else "crazy" but me... what makes you believe you will be acting so cool and professional after hearing of an explosion underneath your position and hundreds of people panicking in the middle of the night? Have a little empathy for your fellow colleagues who make less money than what you get for a house allowance.

Jester64 3rd Jul 2023 00:18


Originally Posted by main_dog (Post 11460655)
Wow. I’m actually learning something from this thread! Great discussion.

Thanks gents, esp Jester (good food for thought, plus mature reactions I didn’t even think were allowed on the prune :ok:) and ex Douglas Driver for the excellent reference.

At the end of the day split-second decision, no-one dead and airplane intact, well done. The Monday morning quarterbacking is inevitable in our profession, even Sully had a hard time justifying his decisions (and I for one would be happy to do half as well as he did in a situation half as difficult as he faced).

I’m open to always learning : )

It’s interesting the recommendations on that airbus safety publication hasn’t made its way to the FCTM - as we are told here to be ‘go minded’ and that ‘very few situations should lead to a reject’ above 100 knots, with speed discrepancy not specifically listed as one of them. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for a reject due to a discrepancy (below 100 knots) but would be thinking twice about it above 100 knots if stop margin limited. This is why it’s important to scan all 3 speed indications early in the takeoff roll as alluded to in that safety publication and the FCTM. A good article by Airbus on RTO decision making here:

https://www.smartcockpit.com/docs/St...o_Decision.pdf

What’s interesting is the percentage of RTO over-run accidents between 1961-1999 that were initiated below V1.


mrdeux 3rd Jul 2023 04:26


Originally Posted by MENELAUS (Post 11460712)
Patently a ******* expert. From his garret in ‘Westminster’. You have to give social media its credit. An expert sat on his shiny arse around every corner.

Not saying I agree with him at all, but he is a 777 Captain.

buggaluggs 3rd Jul 2023 04:34

Actually he's an F/O.........

CodyBlade 3rd Jul 2023 06:08

This is nothing, SQ on fire everybody sit tight.



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