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MeLuvUlongtime 13th Mar 2023 14:45

Emirates Roadshow HONG KONG March.
 
The Pilot Information Sessions will be held at SkyCity Marriott Hotel on March 30 and 31.

Emirates also welcomes experienced pilots to join as First Officers, A380 Direct Entry Captains, or via the Accelerated Command Programme.

"The company points out that the participants only have to join one of the sessions and do not have to register beforehand. Prospective pilots can chat with those currently flying with Emirates and learn more about the recruitment process, job opportunities, training programs, career planning and benefit

"We look forward to having more talented pilots from Hong Kong come onboard our airline," Emirates' Area Manager for Hong Kong Nasser Bahlooq said.

The selection process will be separated into two stages, with the first stage of assessment to be conducted remotely, while the second stage will be done in Dubai over two days.

Bahlooq remarked that Emirates offers exciting benefits for pilots and their families, including competitive tax-free salary, 42 days of annual leave, a generous allowance for accommodation and education, full medical benefits, discounted travel benefits for the wider family and friends,"

Hong Kong SkyCity Marriott Hotel

Thursday, 30 March
Morning session: 11:00am
Afternoon session: 2:00pm

Friday, 31 March
Morning session only: 10:00am

JUST in case you feel excited and naughty.. https://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/pilots/

Gaisha 14th Mar 2023 00:54

I will be attending …. EK rehired all of their sacked pilots in the same rank on the same pay scale. Prospects are good over there.

SOPS 14th Mar 2023 02:05


Originally Posted by Gaisha (Post 11401607)
I will be attending …. EK rehired all of their sacked pilots in the same rank on the same pay scale. Prospects are good over there.

No, they did not…there are many pilots they did not take back.

Bekol delay 14th Mar 2023 02:51

Is this the roadshow that's being run by an ex Cx 777 F/O?

Babyjet_dododo 14th Mar 2023 02:58

Why would anyone want to leave this Oasis for a sandpit? Seriously, why trade in your shoebox apartment for a spacious villa? That’s just more room to clean!

Why give up back to back LH and ULH flights with min days off for one flight and then 3-4 rest days afterwards?

And of course you’re going to miss the basic medical coverage, and schooling!

Nothing says I’m a provider for my family than giving up 95% of one’s salary to pay for schooling, housing and extra medical coverage!

consider before applying, the grass is not always greener on the other side, or is it the sand is not more white on the other side?

pill 14th Mar 2023 04:14

Direct entry command on the 380? And knock back the chance to fly the 320/321? Tell em they're dreaming.

RAT Management 30th Mar 2023 23:51


Originally Posted by MeLuvUlongtime (Post 11401340)
The Pilot Information Sessions will be held at SkyCity Marriott Hotel on March 30 and 31.

Emirates also welcomes experienced pilots to join as First Officers, A380 Direct Entry Captains, or via the Accelerated Command Programme.

"The company points out that the participants only have to join one of the sessions and do not have to register beforehand. Prospective pilots can chat with those currently flying with Emirates and learn more about the recruitment process, job opportunities, training programs, career planning and benefit

"We look forward to having more talented pilots from Hong Kong come onboard our airline," Emirates' Area Manager for Hong Kong Nasser Bahlooq said.

The selection process will be separated into two stages, with the first stage of assessment to be conducted remotely, while the second stage will be done in Dubai over two days.

Bahlooq remarked that Emirates offers exciting benefits for pilots and their families, including competitive tax-free salary, 42 days of annual leave, a generous allowance for accommodation and education, full medical benefits, discounted travel benefits for the wider family and friends,"

Hong Kong SkyCity Marriott Hotel

Thursday, 30 March
Morning session: 11:00am
Afternoon session: 2:00pm

Friday, 31 March
Morning session only: 10:00am

JUST in case you feel excited and naughty.. https://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/pilots/

Anybody been to the road show?

Any tips ? Or info?

Oasis 31st Mar 2023 06:36

But.. do they serve Illy coffee?
Does anyone have any idea what the typical rosters are? any decent time off in a row?

AQIS Boigu 31st Mar 2023 10:05

Forget commuting unless you fancy living somewhere else in the ME

Joining EK means making Dubai your “home”

It could work for some but not for everyone

Gaisha 1st Apr 2023 02:16

With 2 kids in HK and the lack of educational support on COS18, it makes perfect sense for me to make the move to EK. There are many good and affordable schools to choose from in Dubai without having to top up too much from my wages. The 4 bedroom villas with all bills paid for by the company beats living in the crammed conditions we have here in HKG. The summers will be unpleasant but all in all, it’s not a high price to pay for comfort and security.

magenta magnet 1st Apr 2023 04:25


Originally Posted by Gaisha (Post 11412613)
With 2 kids in HK and the lack of educational support on COS18, it makes perfect sense for me to make the move to EK. There are many good and affordable schools to choose from in Dubai without having to top up too much from my wages. The 4 bedroom villas with all bills paid for by the company beats living in the crammed conditions we have here in HKG. The summers will be unpleasant but all in all, it’s not a high price to pay for comfort and security.

Out of interest, does the wife work? And what schools are your kids going to or wanting to go to..

I could honestly think of nothing worse than EK and living in Dubai...

Pickuptruck 1st Apr 2023 05:13


Originally Posted by AQIS Boigu (Post 11412133)
Forget commuting unless you fancy living somewhere else in the ME

Joining EK means making Dubai your “home”

It could work for some but not for everyone

Plenty in Dubai are commuting to Europe. Just saying. Maybe not to North America but Europe is pretty straightforward.

Oasis 1st Apr 2023 09:08

Does emirates have a proffering system?
Joker g equivalent?
Can you swap?
Is it possible to get a block of days in a row?
How many in a row?

Xwindldg 1st Apr 2023 11:14


Originally Posted by magenta magnet (Post 11412630)
Out of interest, does the wife work? And what schools are your kids going to or wanting to go to..

I could honestly think of nothing worse than EK and living in Dubai...

It’s catch 22 though. Yes the wife can work full time, but then that means hiring a full time helper who has to live in your tiny house and basically raise your kids now. Unless you’re a local and have family here.

If you’re going to be an expat living away from your home country and extended family, EK is obviously a much better option than CX now. Only an absolute management cool aid drinker says otherwise.

The ONLY thing CX has going for it now is shiny new jets.

Asianexpress 1st Apr 2023 12:41


Originally Posted by Oasis (Post 11412737)
Does emirates have a proffering system?
Joker g equivalent?
Can you swap?
Is it possible to get a block of days in a row?
How many in a row?

Lol, have you read COS 18. You will have none of the above until they can crew the fleet, thinking 2035.

Babyjet_dododo 2nd Apr 2023 00:43

SCMP reported about 100 pilots attended the first session most from CX but some from SEA carriers. Can CX really afford to lose more pilots?

Management doesn’t care, the salary is “competitive for the aviation industry in Hong Kong”. They refuse to acknowledge pilots can now easily move to other countries with better packages

RAT Management 2nd Apr 2023 09:17

Rosters from mates and snap shots I've seen are reasonable. 777 usually 3-4 days off after individual trips of 2-3 day patterns. No integrated patterns. 777 freight rosters are up to 10 day patterns but longer blocks off of around 7-8 days. The freighter trips are not mandatory you can opt in or out of em. 380 is generally 4 day patterns with 5-7 days off. All long haul 2 CAPT 2FO. No SO's

Swap system is available as well as live leave system for last minute annual leave requests and changes. 6 weeks leave all ranks! GaiamTV to take 30 days each year.

All housing paid including utilities. 4 bed Villa with club house and communal pool tennis courts etc. No option at the moment to opt out of company accom but if it does open up ( supply demand) $4200 US per month for FO and 5500US for Captain. But the catch is once outside company accom the utilities are your own expense.

For DEC it's a good deal assuming you have a place in HK you can pocket the rent from that and live housing cost free in Dubai. Pay is virtually the same when you take into account tax free.

Basically same as living in Hong Kong but schooling package is far superior. Only secondary requires Top up but in HK terms is like 10000 HKD as total top up for the year for one of the top schools in DXB.

The cars supplied to and from work are a bonus.

Medical benefits are superior or old CX style but also covers family across the world. Private rooms etc etc.

CX pos18 package is modelled on the Emirates one but with a downward adjustment to $$$ and benefits, assuming people would rather be in HK over The desert. But I don't think the assumption and the evidence of the continued attack on threshold hours shows the same financial stability as Emirates.

If you have a long career ahead of you as FO and you have moderate hours Emirates would be better financially. Quick command and accelerated command contracts on offer. The Provident fund is better than the current CX one so compounded over a long career will always be far superior.

For Direct Captains on 380 it's basically good rosters and if more than 5 years of service it would be financially better off assuming you have your place in Hong Kong generating extra $$$. Also if you can make 10+ years you get staff travel for your retirement!

Living in Dubai same same but different to Hong Kong. Some things better, some things worse. But if you can make it work in your favour it could be the best move you've made. But obviously not for everyone.

Babyjet_dododo 2nd Apr 2023 10:03


Originally Posted by RAT Management (Post 11413318)
Rosters from mates and snap shots I've seen are reasonable. 777 usually 3-4 days off after individual trips of 2-3 day patterns. No integrated patterns. 777 freight rosters are up to 10 day patterns but longer blocks off of around 7-8 days. The freighter trips are not mandatory you can opt in or out of em. 380 is generally 4 day patterns with 5-7 days off. All long haul 2 CAPT 2FO. No SO's

Swap system is available as well as live leave system for last minute annual leave requests and changes. 6 weeks leave all ranks! GaiamTV to take 30 days each year.

All housing paid including utilities. 4 bed Villa with club house and communal pool tennis courts etc. No option at the moment to opt out of company accom but if it does open up ( supply demand) $4200 US per month for FO and 5500US for Captain. But the catch is once outside company accom the utilities are your own expense.

For DEC it's a good deal assuming you have a place in HK you can pocket the rent from that and live housing cost free in Dubai. Pay is virtually the same when you take into account tax free.

Basically same as living in Hong Kong but schooling package is far superior. Only secondary requires Top up but in HK terms is like 10000 HKD as total top up for the year for one of the top schools in DXB.

The cars supplied to and from work are a bonus.

Medical benefits are superior or old CX style but also covers family across the world. Private rooms etc etc.

CX pos18 package is modelled on the Emirates one but with a downward adjustment to $$$ and benefits, assuming people would rather be in HK over The desert. But I don't think the assumption and the evidence of the continued attack on threshold hours shows the same financial stability as Emirates.

If you have a long career ahead of you as FO and you have moderate hours Emirates would be better financially. Quick command and accelerated command contracts on offer. The Provident fund is better than the current CX one so compounded over a long career will always be far superior.

For Direct Captains on 380 it's basically good rosters and if more than 5 years of service it would be financially better off assuming you have your place in Hong Kong generating extra $$$. Also if you can make 10+ years you get staff travel for your retirement!

Living in Dubai same same but different to Hong Kong. Some things better, some things worse. But if you can make it work in your favour it could be the best move you've made. But obviously not for everyone.

Are you saying I have to give up W patterns with max 3 days off and/or use my annual leave as recovery?

Give up the slum schools of HK for top class education in Dubai?

Leave my amazing 500sq ft apartment for a villa with a back yard?

You can’t be serious about having to give up the comfort of a bus/train/bus to/from work for a chauffeur driven car.

“No thanks - I will not give that up to live in the sandpit when I can live HK in pure ignorant bliss” - Every Quintessential white guy in CX



RAT Management 2nd Apr 2023 12:51


Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo (Post 11413338)
Are you saying I have to give up W patterns with max 3 days off and/or use my annual leave as recovery?

Give up the slum schools of HK for top class education in Dubai?

Leave my amazing 500sq ft apartment for a villa with a back yard?

You can’t be serious about having to give up the comfort of a bus/train/bus to/from work for a chauffeur driven car.

“No thanks - I will not give that up to live in the sandpit when I can live HK in pure ignorant bliss” - Every Quintessential white guy in CX

Ha ha. Classic.

I forgot to mention you get a 20 foot container to relocate to DXB so you can bring your favourite things from your apartment.

Plus, because the 4 bedroom villa will have too much space. They give you $6500USD to buy furniture as a one off welcome to DXB allowance.

Plus if your kids are at boarding school you get 2x confirmed return tickets for them to school/DXB each year per kid to make it hassle free for them to get flights over the school holidays!

Schooling is covered until your kids are 19 and that includes University overseas.

You get 6 annual leave confirmed bookable tickets each year as well for employee and family.

You get 10 tickets a year for "friends" outside of your normal travel nominees.

Plus 50% of your salary is protected against FX exchange rate extremes, but your salary will only go up but never down.

Those are some of the little things, but for some the little things are important..... Like command dinners, gold pins for 10,15.20 years. First class lounge pass when you get your command.... All those things have been wiped in HK but atleast in DXB someone still thinks it's important.

Rie 2nd Apr 2023 14:55


Originally Posted by RAT Management (Post 11413412)
Ha ha. Classic.

I forgot to mention you get a 20 foot container to relocate to DXB so you can bring your favourite things from your apartment.

Someone mentioned Etihad gives a 40ft... Makes It just that much more enticing.


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