Originally Posted by deja vu
(Post 11196605)
Of all the bastardry that has gone on in Hong Kong aviation, none is lower than local CX pilots actively lobbying the government not to renew visas of their expat colleagues. Hang your miserable heads in shame.
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Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 11197014)
Greater Bay is a B737 operator and in its current form couldn't challenge CX on long haul routes. The question is what does the master plan involve, will GBA remain as a regional operator with Air China absorbing CX or will GBA order widebodies and go worldwide ?
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Originally Posted by Rie
(Post 11196764)
afaik they all got another 6 months added so I am pretty sure the lobbying has been a waste of time and money (fortunately)
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Originally Posted by Oddball77
(Post 11197028)
Hate to say this, that's normally the way things are done in any country. Citizens and PR's take preference over non PR's or expat workers.
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Bok, that is a very pilot-centric point of view. (I accept that this is PPRruNe.)
If you are the CFO of a company you do not think in such segmented viewpoints. Staff are staff in whichever department. You may not like them but they do the job. When you can find a cheaper option, you are obliged by the shareholders to go for it and replace them. As a reply to Dragon P I suspect that all the recent denials about Air China taking over CX are true. Beijing will use the proxy GBA as the instrument to absorb CX into China. Wong Cho-bau, Yau Ying-wah and Hui Hon-Chung (Stanley whose name you may recognise) are well in favour in Beijing. Would you still let a Mexican airline base in Texas? CX must become a Chinese airline, it may be good for staff it may be bad for staff. From my perspective of business in China, I suspect the latter. |
Another pilot-centric rule is to assume China cares what airlines operate in Hong Kong.
That and the ubiquitous believe in invisible threats and conspiracies. I guess staring 20+ years at screens waiting for something to happen that never does makes one paranoid.. On top of all, even if Swire sells, what would change? COS 18 for all? |
Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong
(Post 11199521)
Another pilot-centric rule is to assume China cares what airlines operate in Hong Kong.
That and the ubiquitous believe in invisible threats and conspiracies. I guess staring 20+ years at screens waiting for something to happen that never does makes one paranoid.. On top of all, even if Swire sells, what would change? COS 18 for all? Not much change at all, COS 18 will work well with CA. CX must be a buy now STW, the predators are circling and the share price is at a 12 month low. Swire have financially engineered the books for as long as they can, it must be time 'His Swireness' Greg Hughes departs the noble horse he has ridden for so long. |
Originally Posted by KABOY
(Post 11199651)
Welcome to mainland secondments, enjoy your rolling weeks in the mainland. With CX reducing their passenger services, the need will be met in the mainland for those CA domestic flights. The CA accommodation in PEK is quite appealing I here, also those wonderful overnights in Kunming, Chonqing. Truly world cities, I also forgot to mention Shenyang and Wuhan.
Not much change at all, COS 18 will work well with CA. CX must be a buy now STW, the predators are circling and the share price is at a 12 month low. Swire have financially engineered the books for as long as they can, it must be time 'His Swireness' Greg Hughes departs the noble horse he has ridden for so long. It’s a two month course to move from a CX 330 to an AHK 330 then two months to move back again. Here’s the thing with massive bureaucracies (and mainland china is even worse than Hong Kong), they don’t survive by tearing down the red tape their survival depends upon. Half the pilots I know, myself included, wouldn’t even pass the three day medical required to be deemed good enough to operate a Chinese registered aircraft. Ironically, when China makes it seamless to move from one operation to another, it’ll probably be a good place to live. Safe to say that won’t be happening in my lifetime. |
What, two month course? I heard it was a few sims
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Originally Posted by Progress Wanchai
(Post 11199747)
Can you share whatever it is your smoking? I could do with the escape from reality.
It’s a two month course to move from a CX 330 to an AHK 330 then two months to move back again. Here’s the thing with massive bureaucracies (and mainland china is even worse than Hong Kong), they don’t survive by tearing down the red tape their survival depends upon. Half the pilots I know, myself included, wouldn’t even pass the three day medical required to be deemed good enough to operate a Chinese registered aircraft. Ironically, when China makes it seamless to move from one operation to another, it’ll probably be a good place to live. Safe to say that won’t be happening in my lifetime. |
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