CN & FO need to volunteer to 747 or they’ll be shortlisted for the next firing plan
 

Source: FOP

Under the current CoS 18, the redundancy doesn’t need to follow seniority, guys with higher seniority will also have the same chance to be laid off.

It’s really up to you at this moment and believe it or not.

Rubbish, Next...

justification pls

honestly absolutely ridiculous, quit fear mongering. Volunteer if you want or dont, if they dont get enough volunteers they will just move people in reverse seniority

Firing Plan? 🤣🤣🤣 the resignation rate is so high, even the clown show that is the turd floor have figured out it’s unsustainable.

See, the problem you have is you’re still working under the misapprehension that ruling by fear works. In case you aren’t aware, nobody at CX gives a flying f&$k about anything, including whether they stay. In fact, for a large number, getting fired would be a blessing. It would force their hand in something they couldn’t bring themselves to do-quit.

🤣🤣 firing plan- good one

It's a moot point chaps. Cathay will be relegated to aviation history in about 6-12 months. You can all squabble over the deck chairs until your heart is content. It's rather entertaining.

Can You Handle The Truth
 

FC gets it and additionally, there should be no further references to "seniority" as it's only used by the 3rd floor incompetents attempting to troll those who cluelessly still believe in it..

Haha seriously? Is this supposed to scare the 777 crew? It’s almost a reason not to volunteer. No one cares….

Why should ToCat prove a negative? I’d rather hear your justification JJ....

CX is / was the best paying, non flying pilot job in the world the past two years. Collect the paycheck ( albeit less than previous COS 1993, 1994, 1999, 2008 B scales)

CX took away all the seniority, cast highly experienced pilots overboard and decided to move on.

face it, they are just not that interested in you. it is time move on.

Who cares though?

I agree with RB - being forced wouldn't really bother most people anyway. I have yet to hear a genuine regret story from anyone who lost their job voluntarily or due to a base closure/refused to sign the POS. Some annoyed, hurt and offended at first but after a few weeks mostly glad.

Turns out that under Cos99/08 the redundancy clause wasn’t what we thought so not much different now

yawn.........what's wrong you are junior and are scared of being sent to the 747? Anyhow, no way anyone in this airline is losing their job if they hold PR and we are employing work-permit holders on any fleet, after all the work permit holders are gone then and only then might we see 777 pilots who hold PR losing their jobs.

Unfortunately the 747 is an ac you have to land without much automation. Too difficult for some who will be cast aside.

oh get over yourself. It’s just an aeroplane.

My roster, blah blah blah……..oh woe is me, blah blah blah……HTFU. Airbus pilots are sucking it up now, as they always have done.

OMG the 747 is the easiest to land out of all of them. As long as you remember to bring the power to idle..

Wow Ladies and Gentlemen. We have ourselves a real Chuck Yeager here.

The 747 is the easiest airplane I have ever landed. Period.

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If only they will reinstate housing, they will stop the brain drain.
#CXIT

That might slow it a bit but with the current state of HK I don't even think that could stop the exodus

Anything they can possibly try will be absolutely and forever TEMPORARY. This is a permanent consequence of contact cancelation and not ever being able to offer a contract again. Regardless of what language they ever put down on paper to make it look like an actual contract, they have proven once and for all a contract you sign with cathay pacific (or any hk employer for that matter) isn't worth the toilet paper it is signed on. Only the mentally ill or severely desperate will convince themselves otherwise. What little credibility they might have had in the eyes of some was utterly lost as a direct result of unilateral contract cancelation, permanently.

Best they can hope for is to at least temporarily attract more volunteers to operate the airline out of this ditch so they can later worry about how to get out of the next. And that's only possible if what they're offering.is equal to a restoration of salaries to pre-cos18 scales. The math of how it's figured out is irrelevant. Only the amount matters. We all know they won't do this and instead we will all continue to watch this badly mismanaged circus sink further into the abyss, all so the incompetent fools in all levels of cathay management can save face and protect their fragile little self images and egos from reality.

This is a sinking ship. The only decision we all have to make is how long we think we have until it's time to get off, not if. Each individual's decision is personal of course but the facts are the same for all of us. Even if cathay survives, it will never be an employer worth working for except only short term transition purposes.

So no, nothing will stop the exodus. i doubt it will make any difference. The ones staying longer are the ones who are staying due to their desperate circumstances or mental illness anyway.

Wow, well said VforV.

Couldn't agree more.

Housing ???
 

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Obviously time for refresher in the CX "mandatory" Unconscious Bias & Diversity training course

Well spotted. :ok:

I think you are mistaken Vendetta. Exodus of pilots is the wrong perception.It will be an exchange. Certain nationals out, others in.

There is an exodus, the road out is filled with experience.

There is no exchange, the road in will be filled with a cultural and experience diversity that in no way can be compared to ‘same kind’

If I was an airline business, I would not be satisfied with the exchange rate.

Spot on. STW has his head in the sand.

There’s a reason CX has continually recruited from overseas. The talent pool of interested locals is very limited.

So, the exchange only works while the flying task is decimated. CX has massive crewing issues or a much, much smaller airline in the pipeline.

Who cares in the end.. Larger and older companies have miserably failed in the past due to various reasons and both life and industry goes on without them. Feel bad for people and their families, absolutely the opposite for government and management.