Originally Posted by mngmt mole
(Post 11175626)
I left in 2019, after 30+ years in the airline. I joined in the late 80's, as a FO on the Classic ! It's bittersweet to look back now. At the time of joining, it was arguably the best airline career for a pilot in the entire world. The airline went out of their way to demonstrate that you (and your family) were valued and important. I remember my wife and I being flown out in First Class to HK for the second interview. Three days in HK, all expenses paid. A limo to take us of a tour of housing, dinner with the senior management, cocktail parties and a tour of the Kai Tak facilities. There was no question it was a definite "yes" if they offered a position.
Well, over 30 years later, the airline is unrecognisable. It is now probably one of the worst working environments in the industry, and the management seems to treat their pilots with almost utter contempt. The worst people have risen to the top (I do not consider MH to be one of those, but that is a personal opinion). CX management (and Swires) lost sight of what made their airline special. Bean counter mentalities overtook a previously firm appreciation of the contributions of their staff. We are now left with watching a once magnificent airline descend towards oblivion. I accept I am no longer there to witness first hand the inner workings (although have many friends who inform me of the day to day). I pray for those remaining that the management come to their senses and recognise the only way forward is to recognise that the attitudes and policies of the past were what made CX successful. Time to throw away petty prejudices against aircrew and restore their pay, benefits and dignity. |
From what I have read, most who have left comment in a positive light, generally along the lines of "life is better, I'm much happier, I'm glad I left & my new company is a better place to work" etc, having stepped away from the toxic management and culture of CX I believe most are encouraging their old colleagues to consider an alternative that is energetic and rewarding. I fail to see how that is a bad or negative thing.
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Bankrupt.
Originally Posted by Oasis
(Post 11175162)
-Just got divorced, need more money for retirement and my wife's boyfriend.
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Another one - ‘there’ll be a pilot shortage soon and they’ll have to increase the package to attract top quality applicants’
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Originally Posted by Freehills
(Post 11176466)
Another one - ‘there’ll be a pilot shortage soon and they’ll have to increase the package to attract top quality applicants’
All too accurately, that is the straw the Remainers are clutching to. |
Originally Posted by Freehills
(Post 11176466)
Another one - ‘there’ll be a pilot shortage soon and they’ll have to increase the package to attract top quality applicants’
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Originally Posted by lucille
(Post 11176526)
Droll, very droll.
All too accurately, that is the straw the Remainers are clutching to. Edited for punctuation, lest I get banned again. |
Sadly, I do not think they will “increase the package” for those already indentured, they will hire direct entry CN/FO on contracts, a’la the glorious China jobs that attracted expats. CX don’t want too many pesky permanent career pilots!
There are plenty of semi-retired/unemployed ex KA/CX pilots that would jump at a contract job. |
Originally Posted by Farman Biplane
(Post 11176694)
Sadly, I do not think they will “increase the package” for those already indentured, they will hire direct entry CN/FO on contracts, a’la the glorious China jobs that attracted expats. CX don’t want too many pesky permanent career pilots!
There are plenty of semi-retired/unemployed ex KA/CX pilots that would jump at a contract job. |
Really ??
Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
(Post 11174837)
Firstly I sympathise with CX pilots. But why leave? I’d be milking it til it ended. If you leave early you may miss a generous redundancy. Think my last year at KA approached 4 mil for a few hundred hours when you included the payout. That’s October 2019 to October 2020.
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Originally Posted by Flex88
(Post 11177129)
Milking it till the end where it is highly likely the entire enterprise and all its offshoots may go bankrupt and you'll show up to locked doors seems like an exit strategy for colossal fools..
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Hong Kong may continue covid isolation until 2024
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/22...risking-exodus |
When ?
Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong
(Post 11177164)
When did you leave?
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/22...risking-exodus |
Impossible to say, depends entirely on individual circumstances.
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HKCAD rated A320 with Pilot in Command Time on the aircraft.
ASAP, various bases in mainland China ICAO ELP 4 + fluent Mandarin Which airline, any guesses? The CAE job posting keeps that hidden. Interesting to see a targeted headhunt... |
Pretty sure it is for Jet Aviation not one of the airlines. They were advertising the other day directly.
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Originally Posted by Farman Biplane
(Post 11176694)
Sadly, I do not think they will “increase the package” for those already indentured, they will hire direct entry CN/FO on contracts, a’la the glorious China jobs that attracted expats. CX don’t want too many pesky permanent career pilots!
There are plenty of semi-retired/unemployed ex KA/CX pilots that would jump at a contract job. |
Have any pilots absconded yet down line and just gone back to their home country?
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Have any pilots absconded yet down line and just gone back to their home country? |
HK isn't as bad as Qatar when it comes to the trapping of individuals. It's always possible to come back pack up properly without having to ditch outport and tell the wife to pack her bags.
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