Just say nothing
 

Company making repeated calls for volunteers for extended duty periods and closed loop flying. Don't do it!

The extended duty periods wouldn't be legal in normal times, in these stressed times they are even more unjustified.

The closed loop flying needs to be much better rewarded. More money, more annual leave, better hotels with better food. After all they have done to us, they can just get :mad: on current conditions.

There are plenty of idle pilots. Improve the conditions and management of crew, then there might be a bit more up take.

‘I need the money.’

‘EDP gets me more days off.’

How many utter these words?

Monthly salary and EDP are a small piece of the pie.

Everyone forgets they took from us leave, retirement prov fund, kids education, housing, medical, release date of roster, the ability to swap flights and not lose money, redundancy clause, the sweep of changes in Rev 7 and finally the worse one.. the first paragraph Under benefits and allowances that states the company will review and change your remuation however, whenever and as much as they want unilaterally until the end of time...

controlledrest

I'm a pilot, I have a job, I'm bitching about my job because the company suck! But I did sign COS18 as I had no choice, so therefore my point is...

My only advice is to 'move beyond', the company have divided you blokes for over a decade and you still think you will change it....😂

There is even a post about why be in the AOA, doesn't that sum up your chances??

Until you get one cultural group into a majority position, you will forever hold out the begging bowl. CX know this from the past and have skillfully identified where to target.

Airing your dirty laundry only confirms you are on a hiding to nothing.

Pretty sure most of the SO's and a fair chunk of the South Africans are jumping up and down for more closed loop flying. Money is on the line.

Bless the saffer’s, makes the DFO a proud man. Nothing finer than when your countrymen stand up!

Wow - you lot are really premium judgemental asses aren't you. Cx only recruits the best of the best and that must be why you're here.

Wait till this company is filled with pilots from actual third world countries a few years from now and you'll be missing those saffers you so pi$$ on now.

Go drive a truck in a mine in Aus. Quick. Before the saffers get there!

Not a CX jockey.. but a follower/stalker for a few years, what I have seen, CX pilots will never stand together, every pilot seems to have their own agenda, basically like any pilot around the world, every pilot for himself. Dog eat dog world, even if you wear the same uniform, same company and same union never assume your colleagues have your back instead WATCH YOUR BACK nothing like a 9-inch serrated knife through your back. It's the way of life.

Wow... For not a cx jockey you have summed it up perfectly as though you have intimate knowledge. Bravo!

CX Pilots in Denial
 

Do CX Pilots remain in Denial because Hong Kong Government has helped CX too much ?

Denial about what? We are all well aware this place is :mad:

Its dog eat dog since forever.Those who think otherwise need a reality check.

Strikeforce

Ummm, never. Has that not been made abundantly clear?

Rie

Wow, interesting... :rolleyes:

Vast majority of people I know in the loop are from the OTHER Commonwealth countries, and locals. Many of the Saffers I know didn’t renew their leases and are back in SA indefinitely because it’s so cheap. For some even possible on SLV. So no need for loop flying.

KABOY

Yea, cause all the previous non-saffer DFO’s were absolute gems, right?

Doos!

Just smile and wave, smile and wave.

Bokpiel

You are right many of them went back home to enjoy the fresh air and escape this place. Lots have now gone back through the Maldives to washout for the Group A bans and are flying again. This is just my perspective from a fair few people I know who are flying now. Lots of SLV is now being denied so it's either sit around DB with your wife being bored or go flying and try and break even for a month.

Well I’m trying to unsubscribe to the FOP weekly newsletters.
I believe none of them that write these newsletters have a shred of any ethical business sense.

Just flag them as junk. Your email program will do the rest!