I think it's pretty obvious the bases are screwed. It's just a question of the degree of screwing over that is in the pipeline.

They’re not training a hundred or so pilots for HKG on the 747 for nothing. Draw your own conclusions.

London just received a pay proposal ..

Since when are things proposed in the new normal? Diktat more like.

so what are you implying? That they are going to close all the bases and sack all the based crew and not allow them to return to Hong Kong as stipulated in their contracts?

I would think they are training crews onto the 747 because they have crews sitting around on the pax fleets doing nothing!

Exactly that. Their contracts in Hong Kong no longer exist. So they can come back on cos 18. As amended as they see fit. And no ghosting of housing or educ. Around March or April I’d say.

So which is it close the bases and sack them? Or close the bases and bring them back on Cos18? They aren't the same thing. Both are quite extreme but one would open up a massive can of legal worms the other would be unpleasant and result in a lot of voluntary early retirements I would imagine.

Your comment gives only 2 options.
There is at least a 3rd option, and quite possibly more.
Whilst the bases have, I believe, their own different collective agreements, would you agree it’s conceivable that CX may, instead of the 2 doomsday scenarios mentioned, actually offer the bases the chance to align themselves with the HK CoS18 contract, by the individual associations, such as Europe, Canada USA and those troublesome antipodeans, putting a vote to their respective membership to accept Cos18CanadaStyle for example.
It may we’ll be that the incentive for the membership to accept, would be the threat of CX saying something along the lines of “The current basing structure, with regard to leave, medical, pay structure and remuneration is now out of alignment with HK, and to ensure stability and employment for all going forward, the only way basings are viable is for the respective based association membership to vote to adopt the new CoS18 contract (by say 31 March 2021 as an example), or CX will enact the provisions of base closure”

Sam Ting Wong - do tell what the offer to the UK or Europe folk was. Could it have been a 3 months notice to accept CoS18 ora continuation of the 80%, or pay concessions in excess of 20%. Do tell, don’t leave us all hanging.

Now that CX is just another Asian LCC it is a matter of time before the bases are gone (it is now also only a matter of time before CX start bending airframes too).

The sodomites who mismanage this outfit won't close the bases too soon - they won't want to be short of crew if there is a quick recovery, but in the long run the bases will go. Too much hassle complying with laws in civilised countries. Remember none of this is about the money - once CX had the government loan (with more to follow if need be) survival was assured. It is about taking the opportunity to really arse rape the work force.

I don't know the details

controlledrest

So if CX is a LCC then you’d be over the moon about the expat package at SIA? The one that paid less than COS18......

I’d love to know where the amazing pay is in 2020 or even 2018. You all talk like there’s a great pay option out there and yet you wouldn’t last 5 minutes living and working your ass off deep in China for the only higher paying gigs out there.

CX just proposed a 3-month extension of SRS, at 50% of basic salary for the US base. I imagine the other bases got the same proposal.