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Landflap 26th Aug 2020 10:01

Gosh, the pandemic and lock-down is turning you CX bods into softies ! Regularly drop into Fragrant Harbour (well, every day during lock-down) for my comic start to the day watching you guys turn everything into an ugly, personal, street brawl. But now, we are getting some pretty sensible offerings.Of course it is a gigantic control issue to reset the world stage in many areas .Many of us take that reasoned view to different extents but it is encouraging to see such views emerging from the Harbour. Only good wishes to all in these life altering times.

Curry Lamb 26th Aug 2020 15:31

The china virus is old news already, these clowns are about to trigger WW3, and it's a bit too close to my doorstep!

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mili...na-sea-warning

Slasher1 26th Aug 2020 15:45


Originally Posted by Curry Lamb (Post 10871099)
The china virus is old news already, these clowns are about to trigger WW3, and it's a bit too close to my doorstep!

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mili...na-sea-warning

Yeah....I like the part of the propaganda where it says a U2 entered a self-declared China 'no fly zone' (over international waters and airspace) 'without permission.'

News to the ChiComms. They don't need your 'permission.'

badge42 27th Aug 2020 10:45

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53927980

How’s the new ‘Two Countries, One System’ paradigm working out for Cathay?

lucille 28th Aug 2020 22:21


Originally Posted by badge42 (Post 10871638)
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53927980

How’s the new ‘Two Countries, One System’ paradigm working out for Cathay?

How is that news article even remotely believable? Chinese airlines ditched thousands of expat pilots, to the best of anyone’s knowledge none (or very few) have returned. This begs the question - how are they going to crew all those flights?

Curry Lamb 29th Aug 2020 01:00


Originally Posted by lucille (Post 10873056)
This begs the question - how are they going to crew all those flights?

Are you saying this is the next pilot shortage, the big one everyone is waiting for? Not judging, you could be onto something, fast forward 2-3 years from now, and the tables could very well be turned.
I can see Augustus on his knees, begging :ok:

Fly747 29th Aug 2020 02:35


Originally Posted by lucille (Post 10873056)
How is that news article even remotely believable? Chinese airlines ditched thousands of expat pilots, to the best of anyone’s knowledge none (or very few) have returned. This begs the question - how are they going to crew all those flights?

Very believable, didn’t the expat pilots mainly do international flights?

badge42 29th Aug 2020 02:42

I happen to believe there’s an element of truth in that article. Have a quick look at Flightradar24. They’re obviously crewing those flights somehow.

It may not be possible to discern how many passengers are actually being carried or how much they are paying for their tickets, but it is possible to see that there has been something of a rebound in domestic traffic. The rise in pollution levels tells me the World’s Factory is grinding back to life and business is beginning to pick up. Meanwhile Cathay is, not technically, but effectively excluded from it’s domestic market. Sad. :confused:

SabrinaSenior 30th Aug 2020 17:03

20%-25% job cuts coming LIFO stands
 
Numbers being thrown around are between 500 to 1600.

If you’re on the bottom of the seniority list, prepare.

Targeting long haul flying reduction of >60% until March 2021.

Curry Lamb 1st Sep 2020 08:34


Originally Posted by SabrinaSenior (Post 10874282)
Numbers being thrown around are between 500 to 1600.

If you’re on the bottom of the seniority list, prepare.

Targeting long haul flying reduction of >60% until March 2021.

My guess (which is as good/bad as anyones), is 23% on the Barbie Jet and 7% Scarebus.

HOLD ON TO YOUR UNDERPANTS AND PANTIES


AllWobbly 1st Sep 2020 12:54


Originally Posted by SabrinaSenior (Post 10874282)
Numbers being thrown around are between 500 to 1600.

If you’re on the bottom of the seniority list, prepare.

Targeting long haul flying reduction of >60% until March 2021.

In that case why are they still training cadets?

AllWobbly 1st Sep 2020 12:57


Originally Posted by SabrinaSenior (Post 10874282)
Numbers being thrown around are between 500 to 1600.

If you’re on the bottom of the seniority list, prepare.

Targeting long haul flying reduction of >60% until March 2021.

In that case why are they still training cadets?

Progress Wanchai 1st Sep 2020 13:39


Originally Posted by AllWobbly (Post 10875975)
In that case why are they still training cadets?

Because there is a process.

Senior management are designing what they believe is the right structure of the company.
Upon the completion of that process the board will be informed and will debate the merits or otherwise of such a restructure.
Once the board makes a decision the HKEX will be informed and trading in company shares halted until the market can be briefed (as the public are part owners of the company),

Then and only then will the training department be given their new instructions. Rightly or wrongly until then the ship will continue to sail straight ahead.

I’m only speculating but my guess is any leaked “plans” will be coming from the myriad of outside lawyers working with senior management.

cxorcist 1st Sep 2020 15:06

With respect, I don’t think it takes notification of the HKEX to stop hiring and training new joiners. That doesn’t make any sense, but I think you are generally correct about there being a process that takes (too much) time to unfold.

Unfortunately, CX has, once again, proven itself very inflexible and without vision. Of course, anyone here for longer than a few years knows that. Think fuel hedging, rostering, branding, product differentiation, etc.

krismiler 2nd Sep 2020 02:32


My guess (which is as good/bad as anyones), is 23% on the Barbie Jet and 7% Scarebus.
So opposite to EK where the Airbus fleet bore the brunt of the retrenchments. I’ll bet everyone is glad that CX didn’t order the A380 and that they aren’t on it.

hyg 2nd Sep 2020 08:27


Originally Posted by AllWobbly (Post 10875972)
In that case why are they still training cadets?

you mean in Adelaide? the ones that have finished and returned to HK have been basically ignored by the company.... heard that there are like 60-70 of them by now

AllWobbly 2nd Sep 2020 10:33


Originally Posted by hyg (Post 10876562)
you mean in Adelaide? the ones that have finished and returned to HK have been basically ignored by the company.... heard that there are like 60-70 of them by now

Well I was in the FTC the other day and was introduced to a couple of them doing sim.

wongsuzie 3rd Sep 2020 11:15

for what its worth here is some good news:

Very few aircrew and medical professionals were/is infected by the virus.

crwkunt roll 4th Sep 2020 09:06

"If the industry is expected to recover ~2023/24 why accept anything other than temporary changes to your contract?"
Why accept any reductions in contracts and/or new inferior contracts at all when the industry was booming?

Landflap 4th Sep 2020 09:34

Some of you chaps indicating alternative views and sites might find SACHA STONE interesting. Just caught him on Utube conducting a tripartite discussion. Worthy viewpoints.


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