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KA NTR FO Final Interview
Hi guys. First post here, so please excuse me for any mistake...
Anyone planning to go to HK for final intervew nest march / april for the final interview (CAthay Dragon NTR First officer)? Any clues about the sim / tech interview? Thanks. |
Last thing I heard about interview at KA in February is that out of 8 pilots invited nobody showed up. If i were you I would read carefully the COS you were given on 1st stage of interview. Best advice that can be given for your future career. |
Also heard that of the 10+ F/Os that had passed interviews and had start dates with KA in Feb, none turned up after being presented with the new COS. Yep, its that bad.
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Ahh, the ol’ bait and switch technique. Once a tactic only unscrupilulous electronics retailers in TST would stoop to, it’s now Ops Normal for the ‘Cathy’ group |
NTR FO Final Interview
The get up is in the title...
Prepare for your next job ;) Get the rating (NTR FO), contact the dpa (www.dpa.hk) so you're not screwed and do your interviews once you're here realising you're not paid enuf. Prep for interview...... Brush your teeth and hair, turn up and pass the medical. |
Thank you guys for all Replies. Thing I'm going and see by myself....
Regards, |
2 person panel interview . Probably more tech orientated that the 1st interview. “ whats a split flap” ” how does the airbus FBW system op” ” How many A320 Neo’s have we ordered “ Then a sim check. Circuit, eng fail , usual stuff . You can hire the CAE Sim to prepare . Are you under 30? Then you will be fine here. The rating wether A330 or A320 are good. 500 hours and pop them on your easa licence and you have so many options. The $HK 100,000 plus a month doesn’t hurt either! Good luck . ( ps ignore the bs artists here. The pay is still good, just not as good as it was 20 yrs ago. And you can have many local gf ;) |
Originally Posted by mr did
(Post 10417792)
Also heard that of the 10+ F/Os that had passed interviews and had start dates with KA in Feb, none turned up after being presented with the new COS. Yep, its that bad.
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Originally Posted by kahaha
(Post 10418399)
2 person panel interview . Probably more tech orientated that the 1st interview. “ whats a split flap” ” how does the airbus FBW system op” ” How many A320 Neo’s have we ordered “ Then a sim check. Circuit, eng fail , usual stuff . You can hire the CAE Sim to prepare . Are you under 30? Then you will be fine here. The rating whether A330 or A320 are good. 500 hours and pop them on your easa licence and you have so many options. The $HK 100,000 plus a month doesn’t hurt either! Good luck . ( ps ignore the bs artists here. The pay is still good, just not as good as it was 20 yrs ago. And you can have many local gf ;) Where does this 100k a month come from? COS2018 would be link 825k year (on target or 70% with 65 hours month) + 18k month allowance :( |
Originally Posted by kahaha
(Post 10418405)
Fake news. You are presented with COS on 1st interview. If you passed , you were already aware of the pay . Stopp bull sitting |
The $HK 100,000 plus a month doesn’t hurt either ! And forget the DPA, there is a trade union exclusion clause that will ensure you are on your own, no union representation for you Pedre.... Oh, that's right there is a FTL limit that stops you from earning $1000's. Damn the CAD, can I get a dispensation to operate to 1500hours per year? |
It’s not a contract but a policy anyway as pretty much every single clause is “at the sole discretion of the company” and “subject to change from time to time” and all the rest of it.
The point is on the “standard contract” people were happily coming in here, especially with prospect of quick commands (that’s slowed down now, because you can not upgrade first officers if you don’t have replacements). I think it is fair to say we have had 0 interest since COS18 introduction. That is for a reason. So you go ahead and check it out, you’d be the only one pretty much. |
Fake news. You are presented with COS on 1st interview. If you passed , you were already aware of the pay . Stop bull sitting Ironically all of the advice to come here caveats getting a free rating and then leaving. Pretty much sums up the current deal |
I thought the basic COS package salary was around 65k then flying allowances and basic special allowance on top? Are you guys saying its a total salary of hk$ 65k which includes all hourly duty pay, schooling ect ? Thats a raw deal , and I take it back if I suggested $ 100k was possible with flying allowance . |
Kahaha, the basic is 70% of previous COS, it’s closer to 50k however productivity pay is increased and if you’re not on holiday, training or sick leave and if you’re flying a lot then you will get close to 70k. It’s a low cost contract don’t forget that TTW strategy, everything must be cheaper: medical, hotels, allowances, food: the cheaper the better ! |
Why not apply to Air Macau ? They will offer you a type rating which you pay for over 3 years by salary deduction BUT none of the Cathay Airline Group bulls**t.
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how does the Airbus fbw system work |
Originally Posted by ghuerren
(Post 10418079)
Thank you guys for all Replies. Thing I'm going and see by myself....
Regards, These scary messages aren’t just for fun, they are to make sure you come with open eyes. Don’t be thinking that there will be a decent pay rise in a few years when rents have gone up so much you can’t afford it anymore. If you just want a rating with the view to go, it might work but don’t bring a family. Quick commands are dead too.. |
COS18 basic is $48k HKD/mth and no annual increments rises, just one rise to $58k after 2400 block hours in company until command.
There's an 'Allowance' of $18K rising to $22k after 2400 hours. So monthly 'guaranteed' is $66k for the first 4 years in effect. Thats 48% less than equivalent Year 1 on Standard Contract. Productivity pay will make up for some difference, circa $20k for a full month. Overtime will be in hands of the rostering Gods. COS18 pension company contribution is 10% down from 15% and is only payable if you contribute 5% yourself. COS18 pilot get 4 weeks leave fewer per year. You'll be getting paid a lot less to work harder and have less control over you contract. If you reach the top Captain scale its almost competitive with Standard Contract but you need >7200 hours in command in company (12 years at current flying rate) to reach that.. |
Originally Posted by Priority Club
(Post 10420584)
COS18 basic is $48k HKD/mth and no annual increments rises, just one rise to $58k after 2400 block hours in company until command.
There's an 'Allowance' of $18K rising to $22k after 2400 hours. So monthly 'guaranteed' is $66k for the first 4 years in effect. Thats 48% less than equivalent Year 1 on Standard Contract. Productivity pay will make up for some difference, circa $20k for a full month. Overtime will be in hands of the rostering Gods. COS18 pension company contribution is 10% down from 15% and is only payable if you contribute 5% yourself. COS18 pilot get 4 weeks leave fewer per year. You'll be getting paid a lot less to work harder and have less control over you contract. If you reach the top Captain scale its almost competitive with Standard Contract but you need >7200 hours in command in company (12 years at current flying rate) to reach that.. |
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