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unitedabx 6th Feb 2019 07:57

KA now the target
 
With no Plan B to address the CX No vote, CX management have now set their sights on KA. "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" is the obvious tactic and I feel sorry for all at KA who will now regret not standing shoulder to shoulder with their CX colleagues in December 2017. Good luck guys and gals.

Kid Dynamite 6th Feb 2019 08:25

More like robbing Peter to pay themselves!!

bacou 6th Feb 2019 08:31

That's what I heard indeed,
Apparently KA pilots will be moved to that bad longhaul fleet and CX pilots will be sent to China in reeducation camp so they become more company oriented..

main_dog 6th Feb 2019 09:01

:}

It would certainly fit with their “ beatings will continue until morale improves” credo!

Oasis 6th Feb 2019 11:49

That being said, it is time dpa and aoa start working together more than before.

GMEDX 6th Feb 2019 12:10


Originally Posted by Oasis (Post 10381806)
That being said, it is time dpa and aoa start working together more than before.

No point until everyone is on the same contract.

Oasis 6th Feb 2019 12:37


Originally Posted by GMEDX (Post 10381829)

No point until everyone is on the same contract.

There are so many different contacts, I guess we must have a different union for all of them then.
Can you not see how that is not in our best interest?

GMEDX 6th Feb 2019 12:54

Nope I canít. We are a more cohesive work force with a single base. Most of us are really not interested in the AoA or their internal fighting. Weíd rather stick to our own problems thank you.

Will IB Fayed 6th Feb 2019 13:43


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10381632)
With no Plan B to address the CX No vote, CX management have now set their sights on KA. "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" is the obvious tactic and I feel sorry for all at KA who will now regret not standing shoulder to shoulder with their CX colleagues in December 2017. Good luck guys and gals.

Jeez you spread some bullshit. You're about 2 posts away from the block list. Professional troll.
Example one of many:

Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10372126)
Vote NO and watch the sandcastle collapse. The DFO and GMA get their marching orders within 24 hours. Thats got to be worth 1% surely.


MPPCAG 8th Feb 2019 15:50

December 2017? Can you enlighten us what happened united?

unitedabx 9th Feb 2019 07:09


Originally Posted by MPPCAG (Post 10384288)
December 2017? Can you enlighten us what happened united?

All CX captains were excluded from the 13th month bonus.

sergiokl 9th Feb 2019 08:34

And United... what would you expect us to have done? Please enlighten me....

Gnadenburg 9th Feb 2019 08:40

United

KA Pilots did exactly what you did ...... nothing !

unitedabx 9th Feb 2019 09:13


Originally Posted by sergiokl (Post 10384822)
And United... what would you expect us to have done? Please enlighten me....

I would have hoped perhaps a little more compassion but oh no. So many KA drivers sat smuggling on the DB bus rubbing their hands and counting their money. In fairness the Cx AND KA cabin crew suggested the 13th month be pooled by all employees and divided equally amongst everyone. This idea was very honourable and the gesture very much appreciated by the CX captains. One group did not associate itself with it, the KA pilots.
Well I guess the boot is on the other foot now. Swires have their sights on you guys now. Good luck with that.

unitedabx 9th Feb 2019 09:17


Originally Posted by Gnadenburg (Post 10384826)
United

KA Pilots did exactly what you did ...... nothing !

You say we did nothing yet 12 months later an overwhelming vote has forced management onto the backfoot. Witholding the 13th month from the CX captains was a catalyst for all CX pilots to wake up and see the truth. CX pilots have sent a strong message. Management will now focus on you guys. I repeat GOOD LUCK to you and your 0%.

sergiokl 9th Feb 2019 10:07


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10384840)
I would have hoped perhaps a little more compassion but oh no. So many KA drivers sat smuggling on the DB bus rubbing their hands and counting their money. In fairness the Cx AND KA cabin crew suggested the 13th month be pooled by all employees and divided equally amongst everyone. This idea was very honourable and the gesture very much appreciated by the CX captains. One group did not associate itself with it, the KA pilots.
Well I guess the boot is on the other foot now. Swires have their sights on you guys now. Good luck with that.

I donít live in DB and cannot speak for DB people! I for myself can only say it was wrong what happened, but I donít think there is anything we could have done... our 13th month is contractual. Itís there and as long as we have this contract, it will be... and I still donít know what you want from us! Ever since we sign on in CX I fell unwelcomed like a bad seed... but luckily I just donít care! Management thinks we are a big happy family!! We all know we are not! The thing is, I donít expect anything from CX guys and I never will.

unitedabx 9th Feb 2019 10:20


Originally Posted by sergiokl (Post 10384880)


I donít live in DB and cannot speak for DB people! I for myself can only say it was wrong what happened, but I donít think there is anything we could have done... our 13th month is contractual. Itís there and as long as we have this contract, it will be... and I still donít know what you want from us! Ever since we sign on in CX I fell unwelcomed like a bad seed... but luckily I just donít care! Management thinks we are a big happy family!! We all know we are not! The thing is, I donít expect anything from CX guys and I never will.

I would hope as fellow pilots we would treat eachother with mutual respect and friendship. Sorry you feel unwelcome at flight dispatch in CX City. It was your FOP management that signed up to it.
Next time you're at work I hope the hand of friendship will be offered and professional courtesy excercised by all.

BBN RADAR 9th Feb 2019 10:52


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10384842)
You say we did nothing yet 12 months later an overwhelming vote has forced management onto the backfoot. Witholding the 13th month from the CX captains was a catalyst for all CX pilots to wake up and see the truth. CX pilots have sent a strong message. Management will now focus on you guys. I repeat GOOD LUCK to you and your 0%.

An empty and unprovable statement. Correlation is not causation.

Careful guys & gals, I think United has some sort of M.O.
Some posts are very anti-management but others stink of divide & conquer tactics, almost like coming from management.

Beware of the Unscrupulous.

Flex88 9th Feb 2019 13:30

Unwelcome ?
 

Originally Posted by sergiokl (Post 10384880)


I don’t live in DB and cannot speak for DB people! I for myself can only say it was wrong what happened, but I don’t think there is anything we could have done... our 13th month is contractual. It’s there and as long as we have this contract, it will be... and I still don’t know what you want from us! Ever since we sign on in CX I fell unwelcomed like a bad seed... but luckily I just don’t care! Management thinks we are a big happy family!! We all know we are not! The thing is, I don’t expect anything from CX guys and I never will.

Shit, "You Feel Unwelcome at CX", what a jackass.. CX flight crew feel unwelcome at sign on.. Just what is it you don't get ???

main_dog 10th Feb 2019 01:16

Flex, precisely because they are just getting used to the trademark CX unwelcoming attitude towards crew (while we, sadly, fully expect it) means there’s no need to be unfriendly, they’re in our same boat.

We are all in the same bloody boat, some issued with red oars, some green. Sooner we realise this and start acting in unison, the better for us.


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