Wrong mate. CX tried to coerce pilots into continuing to 65 on degraded conditions. Some of our members had enough fortitude to resist that and simply say "no". Regardless, they are still entitled to work to 65, as to suggest otherwise is discriminatory, as at other companies they would not have been forced to effectively pay for their own normal retirement. age. The age IS 65, and they are entitled to that as the rest of us are. If they had all signed over back in 08, they would have all still been ahead of you for upgrade, so no loss. Stop trying to divide the pilots...it's the company that has been doing their best to accomplish that. We shouldn't be helping them.

Completely agree with rsb and xwindldg. The company was clear about what was on offer in 08. IF, and it's a big if, the company allow this THEY will have gone back on their word. I understand that going back on their word is quite normal. But in this case it's in their interest to let COS99 pilots go at 55.

I'll say it again, what the company was "clear about" was also discriminatory. Therefore, those who chose to not capitulate now have the law of discrimination on their side. The company's "terms" were illegal, and therefore those who were discriminated against have the right to have that overturned. Btw, I am on COS 08, I just don't like to see CX coercing pilots into signing for inferior conditions. That should interest ALL pilots at this pathetic airline.

Leaving CX at 55 doesn't mean you are not employable. There are plenty of options... good options, too!

The only way guys are going past 55 who didn't sign 08, is on COS18. Honestly I don't think this will delay commands for guys much. It is just helping to disarm the pilot body. CX wants some Captains on cos18 as this is the flex in the system. They will crew the airline so that they do the min hours every month, get paid way less than anyone else, and have enough CNs so that those on 99/08 are at 84hrs every month. If the **** hits the fan again with number they just work the 18 guys harder. Cos 18 disarms the rest of us, they are going to over crew the airline but we (99/08 guys) will always be at 84 hours.

Anyone who goes across to cos18 is just reducing the little strength this union has.

Effectively, CX is barely any larger an airline than it was three years ago. Sit and ponder that for a bit when you are planning your career progression. CX is dead, and it's only the stubborn delusion of an ever smaller and smaller percentage of the pilot group who don't realise it. Eventually, every one of us will understand that their best career hopes are long in the rear-view mirror. Get out now, while airlines are hiring and the economy is relatively good. All too soon both those facts will change, and you and your families will be trapped in a very unhappy place, still working for an employer who doesn't respect you, value you or care one whit about you or your family. You will be forced into a COS18 situation and your career will effectively be over. If you doubt about any of that, well....time will tell won't it?

hmmm, let's look at the two most recent posts, and consider which one more represents reality. Not too much difficulty in figuring that one out is there?

Wake upend smell the roses canthelpit.....you clearly one of these pilots that had nothing before you came here. Or came from a 3rd world country. HK is a over crowded sh1t pool. Air quality is poor. Rental is highest in the world.(but stay in you DB bubble with your wife not working) if this makes you feel manly, Chinese is taking over, CX is cutting everything from under your nose.
But you probably been here 7 years or so - still gaining your 2000 hours, but RQ on a wide body....ha ha ha its laughable.

CX has absolutely no experience pilots any more. All JFO's and FO's I fly with think they know everything but come up with excuses after every approach/landing because the are not confident in there skills.
CX is in a world of trouble....shrinking this airline daily is a great way to save money. Its concerning and a massive problem. I would be very worried if you as a pilot don't have a plan B.

Any pilot wanting to join CX/KA I say honestly exhaust your options entirely before joining.

We obviously move in different circles. Most of the people CX/KA people I know, the main topic of conversation is about when they're getting out of here. Even among the locals. Those cadets who have another passport are all converting their licences, as the HKCAD ones are now not worth the paper they're printed on.

The airline IS contracting both in passengers carried, freight tonnage and when the 12 ER's go back, aircraft numbers.