Boeing C&T screw up
 

The first slide in the current P2/K2 simulator sessions asks " when does your medical expire ?".
How ironic then that one of the scab sim instructors who now does these renewals as part of the FOP 'cheapcheck' policy has been found not to have a valid medical himself thus rendering at least 30 crews recent P2 renewals invalid. These crews are being re-rostered to do their ratings again with properly qualified STC's at huge cost.
Is this being investigated ? No. The sim instructor involved is high up in the "brotherhood" so no questions being asked.

Time To Win :ok:

Happened on the bus fleet last year, October time, another very senior (Number 1, don't you know) RF had a lapsed medical and renewed quite a few p6's. Ask the CAD how many of these then went on to illegally operate...

SSI's
 

Geeze gents/gals, get up to date. They require a medical, like you. If they have and also have STC background they can "Check" till they drop (i.e. forever).. CAD bends over and for CX, "Time to Win"
I wonder, did the AOA "ever" say anything about this? There is even some "Star Chamber" gents in there doing this (just a little salt in the wound ey wot)
This has been kicked around on this site for a year + now.. Your EX-STC pals are taking line trainer jobs... Get it ??

Yes I know it's very very complicated letsfly but here are the basics. To "check" (i.e.representing the CAD for license issue or renewal purposes), you must have a "valid license" and to have a valid license, you "must" have a valid Class 1 medical.. Too complicated ???

When you think about it, it does make some sense. The checker is acting as an extension of the regulatory authority to make sure a pilot can perform certain maneuvers according to regulatory standards. While he or she isn't charged with the lives of 300 or 400 people in the back, he or she is still charged with re-validating the license which allows the checkee to carry those people.

As a regulatory authority, would you want one of your examiners checking people (and certifying them) who had an untreated psychosis (all jokes aside), had an untreated substance abuse disorder, or even maybe a stroke which had left mental faculties impaired ? In that it might be difficult (but certainly possible--and potentially worthwhile) to come up with a different set of medical standards for certification of designated examiners, the existing ones for pilots are simply used.

A few years ago some hero decided to save some $ by not having an Airbus sim re-certified for both 340 and 330, just 330. No one told training control (or they didn't understand) so the sim was still used for 340 PCs. A bunch of guys were flying without valid ratings, had to re-do PCs.

More recently with CAD giving CX a hard time over all the licence screw ups, Manager Training asked a Capt to 'loose' his licence, so a new, valid one could be issued by CAD. Capt wasn't too keen as it would mean making a false declaration to HKG Police.

Now CX is pushing the responsibility back onto us, with reminders to check licences. It would be nice if CX could actually manage something as fundamental to an airline as air crew licencing.

controlledrest

It is YOUR licence make sure it is valid, don't rely on anyone else, YOU will carry the resulting mess. Cathay does not own your licence.

I am surprised one of the local papers hasn't picked this up. Cathay pilots fly passengers without valid license due simulator stuff up. CAD does nothing (again).

mr did

excellent point and one I was alluding too in the original post. This is being "buried" by management but the cost on the 777 fleet alone for repeated sim time/STC's/loss of pilot productivity runs into the HKD millions.