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Well, that was readable :confused: I'll just focus on the fact that the US economy is currently the best in the world. Unsustainable? That would be Europe.
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Let’s all focus on the fact the company has opted for a hotel in an undesirable location which has the potential to be dangerous to the crew staying there. All this in a bid to cut costs and screw is over. No wonder we can’t get anything done. One small diversion and half the folk here go off on a completely different direction. Put your focus where it is needed. |
Oakland?
And I thought your lot took a big step down to join our bankrupt US Legacy crew at that budget brand hotel on Van Ness Avenue a few years ago. Last time I stayed by the OAK airport was in 1990. I had to dive on the floor due to a gunfight breaking out in the parking lot adjacent to my room. While having breakfast at the IHOP the next morning, some sort of a housing project cop parked his vehicle in front. I causally counted about 5 bullet holes on the body. |
The left in the West, emboldened by 90% of the media, has lurched dangerously leftward and is now well outside the mainstream. i encourage everyone to pick up a copy of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s book, The Gulag Archipelago, for a horrific firsthand account of where this failed philosophy leads... Suffice it to say that the media in the West needs to shake itself free of its left wing bias and begin reporting objectively. |
All you trumpologists won’t admit the reality of your love for this moron You drone on about how great he is for the economy which is not true, the most recent quarter’s gdp is equal to Obama’s fifth best while adding trillions in debt The one thing that unites all of you trump culters is racism, fascism and a willingness to ignore chumps active collaboration with putin, head of an enemy state Youre so enraptured with this orange buffoon you’ve forgotten who the enemy is The truth stands little chance against a lie people want to believe |
Originally Posted by stilton
(Post 10209602)
All you trumpologists won’t admit the reality of your love for this moron You drone on about how great he is for the economy which is not true, the most recent quarter’s gdp is equal to Obama’s fifth best while adding trillions in debt The one thing that unites all of you trump culters is racism, fascism and a willingness to ignore chumps active collaboration with putin, head of an enemy state Youre so enraptured with this orange buffoon you’ve forgotten who the enemy is The truth stands little chance against a lie people want to believe let’s bring hillary back she would have been a more sustainable choice yeah |
Stilton. Anyone who names himself after a smelly cheese really shouldn't be commenting on buffoonery. And you also shouldn't be commenting about national debt, as Obama was responsible for as much debt as ALL the previous 200 yrs of spending combined. Quite an accomplishment, especially when considering his weak economic performance on top of that. T will increase debt as well, but at least he seems to be turbocharging the economy at the same time, so a net win. Just sit back and enjoy getting your little liberal panties in a twist for the next six years (yes, six). Snowflakes gotta snow....
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Originally Posted by raven11
(Post 10209565)
The left in the West, emboldened by 90% of the media, has lurched dangerously leftward and is now well outside the mainstream. Ohhhhhh ..... :D That was priceless. It reads like a child attempting to write Rap. Hopefully you’d had a few beers. i encourage everyone to pick up a copy of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s book, The Gulag Archipelago, for a horrific firsthand account of where this failed philosophy leads... Yup. Read it when I was a teenager. Along with every other person in year 11. If you think that it applies to the U.S., you can’t be helped. Suffice it to say that the media in the West needs to shake itself free of its left wing bias and begin reporting objectively If you’re actually serious about an unbiased news source; Try the PBS News Hour first. The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post and the New York Times all remain serious news sources. Despite efforts to minimize them. Choose wisely, lest you sound like a lunatic. |
Originally Posted by raven11
(Post 10209565)
The left in the West, emboldened by 90% of the media, has lurched dangerously leftward and is now well outside the mainstream. i encourage everyone to pick up a copy of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s book, The Gulag Archipelago, for a horrific firsthand account of where this failed philosophy leads... Suffice it to say that the media in the West needs to shake itself free of its left wing bias and begin reporting objectively. |
Originally Posted by JPJP
(Post 10209727)
Ohhhhhh ..... :D TIf you’re actually serious about an unbiased news source; New York Times all remain serious news sources. Most normal Americans would love to see the entire Bay Area carved out and set adrift into the Pacific so it can become the wonderful liberal utopia it strives to be. Then they can show us how great the far left agenda is when they look like some of the other awesome places these similar policies have created. Places like Cuba, Venezuela, etc. Viva la revelucian! Where’s that earthquake when we really need it? |
The first incident and the company will be sued for failure to provide due care. The case will be heard in the USA where payouts run into the billions annually. Does CX really want this for the sake of a few dollars extra at a decent hotel. Penny wies pound foolish.
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Originally Posted by rhinodriver
(Post 10209737)
Seriously? Bahahahahahaha. Please say that was sarcasm!
Most normal Americans would love to see the entire Bay Area carved out and set adrift into the Pacific so it can become the wonderful liberal utopia it strives to be. Then they can show us how great the far left agenda is when they look like some of the other awesome places these similar policies have created. Places like Cuba, Venezuela, etc. Viva la revelucian! Where’s that earthquake when we really need it? Assuming that you know what “most Americans” want is amusing. Here’s an exercise for you - what percentage of the eligible voters in the U.S. voted for the current administration ? The numbers are available from the Fed. When you figure out the number is around 27%, you’ll freak out and start squeeling about conspiracy theories and ‘the deep state’. Read your quote again when you sober up. You sound like a poorly educated version of Joe McCarthy. |
JP you stated : If you’re actually serious about an unbiased news source; Try the PBS News Hour first. The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post and the New York Times all remain serious news sources. Despite efforts to minimize them. Choose wisely, lest you sound like a lunatic. If you think that the Washington post and NY Times are unbiased news sources therein lies a massive problem. . Those papers are written by reporters and editors with a serious left wing liberal bias |
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Originally Posted by JPJP
(Post 10209752)
<div style="text-align:left;"><br /><br />Changing my quote is pretty strange behavior Rhino. Did you think that you’d be unable to make your point without it ? Not surprising, but still a little unhinged.<br /><br />Assuming that you know what “most Americans” want is amusing. Here’s an exercise for you - what percentage of the eligible voters in the U.S. voted for the current administration ? The numbers are available from the Fed. When you figure out the number is around 27%, you’ll freak out and start squeeling about conspiracy theories and ‘the deep state’.<br /><br />Read your quote again when you sober up. You sound like a poorly educated version of Joe McCarthy.<br /><br /><br /><br /></div><br /><br />
your 27% number is pretty unimpressive when only 55% of citizens can be bothered to vote. Fair point about changing your quote. I only did that because you included the New York Times in that list. Laughable. Washington Post, hmmm, depends on the columnist. while I am not a huge fan of the current President due to integrity issues, he is far and away better than the last administration. I survive on the fact that he has excellent people around him like Mike Pence, Jim Mattis, Mike Pompeo, John Kelly, etc. The last Administration was unarguably one of the worst foreign policy Presidencies in American history, unless you’re into the decline of American exceptionalism. there are issues for sure! Debt being the biggest in my opinion that the current administration has yet to address. Considering the last President added 9 Trillion (more than all Presidents combined) to the appx 20 Trillion debt I'd say we can probably add that to the list of Obama failures. But I’d love to hear how 4+% GDP growth is a farce. I’m willing to bet we’ll have similar growth numbers for the next foreseeable quarters. The question will be what the Fed does with interest rates. They need to stay low for the foreseeable future to deal with the insane amount of debt America has to service the interest on. Trump has done eff all on this front. Time to get real about debt! JPJP, are you even American? If not STFU! #MAGA |
And for all those other non-Americans, and perhaps some Americans who want to go on and on about guns and social services... America was founded on PERSONAL LIBERTY. Personal liberty ends up being better for the herd in the long run. Don't belive me? Remind me again which country has the largest economy? And when it comes to guns, that is a deeply engrained cultural thing in the U.S. It is enshrined in our Constitution and not going anywhere. Just accept it's a cultural difference between our countries. Despite the supposed gun violence in the U.S., I've never seen a gun pulled in anger in my 50 years. Hot tip though, you probably shouldn't come unannounced into my house..... It could end badly for you.
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I've never seen a gun pulled in anger in my 50 years And no one outside of America gives a rats arse if you all kill yourselves with your "self defence" semi automatics. We just don't want to go to Oakland and get caught up in it because Cathay wont pay for a hotel room somewhere safe. |
The simple fact of the matter is this: If you don't live in the US, you really don't understand it. The "Crown" didn't understand that either in 1776, and two hundred years plus later foreigners don't either. Europe is now on their great decline, which will end in social chaos. As for the USA, it's a country based on a shared ideal, not race, not religion. Regardless of difficult times, the US will ALWAYS find ways to reinvent itself. Europe, too stuck up their own arse to realise that they have abdicated their own culture, their future and their safety. It won't end well. As a previous poster said, the US will never give up the second amendment, and will endure the pain that comes with it, realizing that ultimately it is a foundation of their strength as a society. Nothing of value comes without a price, and the ultimate ideal of liberty that America provides it's citizens will never succumb to a threat, no matter how grave. For all it's faults, it will always provide the world the ultimate beacon of liberty, freedom and opportunity.
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Originally Posted by JPJP
(Post 10209727)
Yup. Read it when I was a teenager. Along with every other person in year 11. If you think that it applies to the U.S., you can’t be helped. Read it again comrade....I don’t in any way suggest that it describes the US today, only a moron would infer that. I do however suggest it might be evidence of where things proceed under socialist regimes. Only someone drowning in the lefty Kooaide could read the tragedy in that book and then sarcastically dismiss it as you do. FFS, Why do I bother...? |
Originally Posted by pax britanica
(Post 10209204)
Here in Europe we have economies too but we also have a thing called society which is not based exclusively on money. It varies from place to place as do our economies and we have some things that you in America don't; like free speech, the willingness not to bear arms and a degree of concern rather than contempt for the less well off in our societies.
Fortunately there is a big ocean between us ( or along haul flight if you prefer) so you can live your lives and we can live ours . And in ten years time that word 'imported' you stick on things we send you will still be a cachet for exclusive, superior or just plain better, so the better your economy does the better ours do too. As far as your standard of living is concerned. After the immigration invasion your experiencing has taken over your nation. Don’t come crying on my doorstep. |
Originally Posted by stilton
(Post 10209602)
All you trumpologists won’t admit the reality of your love for this moron You drone on about how great he is for the economy which is not true, the most recent quarter’s gdp is equal to Obama’s fifth best while adding trillions in debt The one thing that unites all of you trump culters is racism, fascism and a willingness to ignore chumps active collaboration with putin, head of an enemy state Youre so enraptured with this orange buffoon you’ve forgotten who the enemy is The truth stands little chance against a lie people want to believe When its your turn. Your side protests the persons house, picks on their kids and throws poop on the windows. Your side can not handle listening to anything outside your echo chamber. Your side is fake. You preach equality, but the record shows your side is everything but. I suggest you put your black spandex one piece on and go back to your underground lair to plot the next purge of humans. Lefty ideas bring misery for all but those who are enforcing them. Your sick 🤒 |
I thought USA was more than 95% immigrants!!!!!
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Well, I think it's reasonable not to want to stay in a bad area. But seriously guys?
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Originally Posted by Apple Tree Yard
(Post 10205317)
This is what awaits... Girls are going to LOVE it ! Another thing many of you haven't experienced yet...welcome to a much 'darker' part of America (you can read between the lines as you wish).
SHOCK VIDEO: Member Of Right-Wing Group Faces Brutal Beating The Daily Caller unsuitable to pprune CX lays over in much more dangerous places around the world than Oakland and experienced air crew know to avoid street hassles, demonstrations, and protests. A bit of a drive from SFO I'd reckon but parts of Oakland are very nice with excellent bars and restaurants. Lake Merritt (lived there) , Piedmont Ave, Jack London Square. A retired Captain I know even had a upscale LOFT in downtown Anyone have a spare $1.7mil for a new Oakland Hills Residence? The views are astounding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVtqmGSO4rA&feature=youtu.be |
Originally Posted by pax britanica
(Post 10209204)
It varies from place to place as do our economies and we have some things that you in America don't; like free speech...
Fortunately there is a big ocean between us ( or along haul flight if you prefer) so you can live your lives and we can live ours . Perhaps you can educate us Colonists with a comprehensive list of situations in US history where speech was suppressed by the force and police power of government to such an extent that you now have unequivocally proven the US today doesn't have it. And, yes, it's very fortunate a "big ocean" is between us so YOU don't have to come here...and we'll never know you didn't. |
Originally Posted by Koan
(Post 10210435)
Read between the lines? Why post this SHOCK VIDEO. Political street violence has nothing to do with night stops and suggests a subtle bigotry.
unsuitable to pprune CX lays over in much more dangerous places around the world than Oakland and experienced air crew know to avoid street hassles, demonstrations, and protests. A bit of a drive from SFO I'd reckon but parts of Oakland are very nice with excellent bars and restaurants. Lake Merritt (lived there) , Piedmont Ave, Jack London Square. A retired Captain I know even had a upscale LOFT in downtown Anyone have a spare $1.7mil for a new Oakland Hills Residence? The views are astounding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVtq...ature=youtu.be Ahh, the old "bigotry" accusation, the usual default attack position of the left. A perusal of the latest crime statistics for different urban areas of the USA will make it quite clear just how dangerous Oakland is. The racial makeup of the town is not something you can just wish away. I know for you liberals the acceptance of fact is a bit difficult at most times. It's hard for you to deal with the real world outside of your little bubbles of self-delusion that you inhabit. As for purchasing property in Oakland. Bwahahahaha |
Originally Posted by Apple Tree Yard
(Post 10210514)
Ahh, the old "bigotry" accusation, the usual default attack position of the left. A perusal of the latest crime statistics for different urban areas of the USA will make it quite clear just how dangerous Oakland is. The racial makeup of the town is not something you can just wish away. I know for you liberals the acceptance of fact is a bit difficult at most times. It's hard for you to deal with the real world outside of your little bubbles of self-delusion that you inhabit. As for purchasing property in Oakland. Bwahahahaha
Have you ever driven up Skyline Blvd? Too rich for my blood Ever eaten at Baywolf on Peidmont Avenue? (Guess it has been reborn as The Wolf). https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/...n-as-the-wolf/ Are you even a professional pilot? Are you uncomfortable sharing the flight deck with a colleague of the "darker", as you posted, persuasions? I'm not with CX I will ask my friend who is a Captain at CX where the layover hotel is located as it would not be prudent to post here for security reason. The area around KOAK/Hegenberger is not safe to walk around at night, neither is MLK Blvd. No crews will be walking around there, and all big cities in the US have have bad areas thanks to poverty and drugs anyway. San Fran is overrun with aggressive homeless and human wastes. I'd rather stay at Mariott Fisherman's Wharf or the Airport hotels than anywhere downtown. CX crews will not have any issues in OAK. Just as laying over in Delhi best to stick around Paharganj and not wander into some slum, and avoid street hassles. |
Koan, if you are not with CX, then why on earth would you think your opinion is of any value? I don't go around commenting on other industries blogs, imposing my opinion where it's not welcome, nor needed, nor relevant. We are sick of the degradation in our hotel accommodation. Your imposed comments really don't help the debate. Sir. (and your "bigotry" comment completely identifies you as a liberal, so live with it).
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Originally Posted by mngmt mole
(Post 10210598)
Koan, if you are not with CX, then why on earth would you think your opinion is of any value? I don't go around commenting on other industries blogs, imposing my opinion where it's not welcome, nor needed, nor relevant. We are sick of the degradation in our hotel accommodation. Your imposed comments really don't help the debate. Sir. (and your "bigotry" comment completely identifies you as a liberal, so live with it).
The city has always got an undeserved bad rap, and it is much better than in the past. Half the people from my hometown seem to have migrated to Oakland or Alameda, by the way. The Bay Area suburbs are completely unaffordable. The degradation of conditions is the same struggle in every Airline, only reason we're not sharing rooms in Chung King Mansions whilst in HK is a working under a decent contract. Sorry to see you get shuttled so far away from SFO. I hope the Hotel itself is not too bad. Cheers. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...8f525c84d.jpeg |
Thank you for the information. However, most of us simply want a decent hotel and the ability to enjoy the time wherever we are staying, and to do so in safety. I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that Oakland is a particularly safe place, and certainly not as overall safe as SFO. Regardless of your personal feelings about the place, for crew from HKG, flying into SFO, having to travel to and from Oakland is really not an improvement in our situation.
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There are loads of great hotels and restaurants in Burlingame which is very close to SFO. This is where just about every airlines’ crews layover. I don’t understand why CX always has to break with the industry and do random crap like transport crew all the way across town and over the Bay Bridge to Oakland. That is insane!!! Aren’t these patterns fatiguing enough? Why add an hour transport on both ends? It’s truly maddening. Keep in mind that traffic will be horrible for much of the day along this route. I bet there are some hotel and allowance savings over there that offset the added transport cost. Crazy!!! |
A one hour travel time if your lucky. Try more like two hours.l |
Used to stay in Hayward, CA on layover. Homeless sleeping outside nearby businesses, random men jumping concrete-block walls with latex gloves in the middle of the day, etc. I'd recommend staying downtown SF at a mainline hotel, Just my opinion. I did not have a good impression of that area, and that was relatively far from OAK...a decade ago.
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Most CBD areas of SFO/OAK are really worth avoiding. The amount of homelessness, hobos, drug use, drunkeness and other anti-social behaviour is really disgusting.
Originally Posted by rhinodriver
(Post 10209737)
Most normal Americans would love to see the entire Bay Area carved out and set adrift into the Pacific so it can become the wonderful liberal utopia it strives to be. Then they can show us how great the far left agenda is when they look like some of the other awesome places these similar policies have created. Places like Cuba, Venezuela, etc. Viva la revelucian!
Originally Posted by Air Profit
(Post 10209847)
As for the USA, it's a country based on a shared ideal, not race, not religion
Originally Posted by Air Profit
(Post 10209847)
Regardless of difficult times, the US will ALWAYS find ways to reinvent itself.
Originally Posted by Air Profit
(Post 10209847)
For all it's faults, it will always provide the world the ultimate beacon of liberty, freedom and opportunity.
Originally Posted by DropKnee
(Post 10210227)
After the immigration invasion your experiencing has taken over your nation. Don’t come crying on my doorstep.
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Originally Posted by DropKnee
(Post 10211092)
A one hour travel time if your lucky. Try more like two hours.l I live in the East Bay and go past the Marriott most days of the week. I don’t know how the hotel is but the area is not all bad. In the daytime it’s really no worse than downtown SF. And at night I’m not sure downtown SF is better now either. Want to party at night? You are only a short Uber ride to Piedmont which is a rich and safe area with many restaurants . A few miles further is Rockridge area which is safe and has many restaurants slightly further is the college town of Berkeley, lots to do. I go there most days and it’s safe even late at night. Walk a few steps and take Bart to the very nice and very safe town of Walnut Creek about 12 miles north Take Uber back at night. BART can be sketchy at night and some BART stations not the best...like in Oakland. Crews based at the Marriott for a few days can go to many nice places and honestly there is no need to miss SF. I almost never go there now...no reason to. But SFO crew in Oakland is logistically bad. SF is far from SFO, Oakland is going further in the wrong direction. |
Agree with most of the above, just don’t wear your red MAGA hat outside your hotel room. That could be counterproductive to your physical security. God would probably have to drop most of the left coast into the Pacific if the country truly wanted to MAGA. |
Originally Posted by armchairpilot94116
(Post 10219327)
Very true. Basing SFO crews in Oakland is insane due to the Bay Bridge being a nightmare most of the time and basically impassable some of the time. I live in the East Bay and go past the Marriott most days of the week. I don’t know how the hotel is but the area is not all bad. In the daytime it’s really no worse than downtown SF. And at night I’m not sure downtown SF is better now either. Want to party at night? You are only a short Uber ride to Piedmont which is a rich and safe area with many restaurants . A few miles further is Rockridge area which is safe and has many restaurants slightly further is the college town of Berkeley, lots to do. I go there most days and it’s safe even late at night. Walk a few steps and take Bart to the very nice and very safe town of Walnut Creek about 12 miles north Take Uber back at night. BART can be sketchy at night and some BART stations not the best...like in Oakland. Crews based at the Marriott for a few days can go to many nice places and honestly there is no need to miss SF. I almost never go there now...no reason to. But SFO crew in Oakland is logistically bad. SF is far from SFO, Oakland is going further in the wrong direction. |
The Boston hotel is not suitable then either, or Chicago. |
Not too many places you can walk from the hotel and find something good to eat at 3am and be safe. |
Ten years ago migration from Bulgaria and Romania was supposedly going to be the end of Europe. Twenty years ago a large influx of Builders and Plumbers from Poland was supposedly going to be the end of Europe. I wonder what people will be saying is going to cause the end of Europe in ten years time.[/QUOTE] easy answer my friend, your polish builders and plumbers from Poland and the romanian and Bulgarians migrations are and have been integrated to a degree, now in 10 years you are going to have 10 million economic migrants from the subcontinent with no skills,no integration selling trinkets in your streets drawing your social benefits and increasing your local unemployable citizens and using your medical resources, read my lips and don’t call me racist. It’s inevitable. The only countries that would be able to survive will be the eastern ones and Russia and of course Switzerland. Do you see China who is sending millions of yuan’s there accepting any I mean ANY economic migrants in their country? They only aim is to sapp those countries of vital resources while leaving the immigration problem to Europe, isn’t that a great deal? |
Originally Posted by Oasis
(Post 10219682)
The Boston hotel is not suitable then either, or Chicago. |
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