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CAE now recruiting for cx
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Still racing to the bottom.........
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Good grief! That's interesting, who would have thought?
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Sad decline at CAE as well as CX
Originally Posted by enoughisenough_
(Post 10177263)
#MCXGA |
Comes with a little uTube video.. just in case you need to know about second Officers in CX. LOL Wont be long CAE CX looking for First Officers..
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Well, when your pilot recruitment team resign because of the horse manure of instructions they get from management on a daily basis, I guess you have to outsource to a well known agency.
When I was employed by CX way back, I was asked to go to Swire London to meet a couple of directors. Now you get Parc to handle your application. Another example of how CX has become a JAFAA. Sad |
Excellent career progression prospects (everything comes to those how waits. how long is a piece of string?)
If you are successful, you would enjoy the following benefits, and many more: - Excellent salary (that will never increase with inflation) - Monthly allowance (to live in the standard you would be expect a professional to enjoy) - Travel benefits (to and from Taipei) - Insurance benefits (with doctors of our choosing) I guess everything is relative so if you compare the above with certain other airlines it probably is correct |
I bet the commission paid to PARC per recruit would just about cover running the entire in house recruitment department for a month...
Pay more for less That's got to be TTW! |
Commission ??
Originally Posted by rhoshamboe
(Post 10177835)
I bet the commission paid to PARC per recruit would just about cover running the entire in house recruitment department for a month...
Pay more for less That's got to be TTW! |
Recruiting for Asiana Airlines as well....
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If you are successful, you would enjoy the following benefits, and many more:
Does not mention Housing... |
The Truth
Originally Posted by A3301FD
(Post 10178045)
If you are successful, you would enjoy the following benefits, and many more:
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CX are scraping the ABSOLUTE bottom of the experience pit |
Why would Swire care....?
If Swire are planning on quitting aviation soon to concentrate on fizzy drinks why would they care who they left flying the CX fleet.......I mean if it crashes after DP and AT have left the building it's not their fault is it?
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Reality Check
Originally Posted by Ghost_Rider737
(Post 10178486)
CX are scraping the ABSOLUTE bottom of the experience pit That includes CX (as SO's) however they will do nothing for 5 - 6 years then move to FO. CX sister airline has received (as many others have) MPL qualified crew and shove them directly into the RHS of an A330 or A320 and these young folks can have slightly over 100 hours TOTAL with NO solo time necessarily required. Chew on that for a while ! This is what corporate geeks do - low cost at any cost. These rules are from our "all inclusive everybody's the same" friends in the EU. BTW. China, all by itself, needs 100k pilots over the next 20 years. Do you think they'll all be highly qualified experienced pro's ?? |
Flex, in the USA, they are NOT doing that. You have highlighted the big problem with working for CX: they can hire from anywhere, at whatever standard, for whatever pay. They will ALWAYS be able to undermine your pay and conditions if the management of the day is willing to scrape the barrel. That is all you need to focus on. If you don't want a career that is constantly subject to that threat, then endeavor to establish a career with a first world airline. There really is no other choice. In the meantime, enjoy the spectacle of CX losing all it's experienced and qualified crew. The day will come when CX is JAFAA (and it is almost to that point already).
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So this is the introduction of COS18? |
Not only CAE is advertising for CX, now Direct Personnel Int. is after second officers too. but with a very cute second officer.
CX offering new pay scale.. better for the company in cost cutting measures. besides they only Second officer :} https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...d1666fa176.png |
Originally Posted by Flex88
(Post 10179007)
All over Asia they are placing crew members with those qualifications in every aircraft they operate. Just where do you think they are getting their crew from?
That includes CX (as SO's) however they will do nothing for 5 - 6 years then move to FO. CX sister airline has received (as many others have) MPL qualified crew and shove them directly into the RHS of an A330 or A320 and these young folks can have slightly over 100 hours TOTAL with NO solo time necessarily required. Chew on that for a while ! This is what corporate geeks do - low cost at any cost. These rules are from our "all inclusive everybody's the same" friends in the EU. BTW. China, all by itself, needs 100k pilots over the next 20 years. Do you think they'll all be highly qualified experienced pro's ?? |
Airplanes that fly themselves... Ha ha, yes, that’s what management (outside the USA) are deluding themselves with....while secretly hoping a real pilot is onboard when things go pear-shaped. Imagine, the first time a passenger finds him/herself upside down in one of these “self flying” airplanes, it will also be the “pilot’s” first time. |
Originally Posted by raven11
(Post 10179553)
Imagine, the first time a passenger finds him/herself upside down in one of these “self flying” airplanes, it will also be the “pilot’s” first time. |
Rhino driver - Indeed! I find it incredulous that a hammer approach to teaching people how to fly out of an unexpected position, that they probably wouldn't have gotten themselves into if they were initially taught well, is now being mandated. In a previous life, it seemed I spent half the time upside down, or at max angle of attack, as the norm. Strangely, I've found that both model A and model B both respond quite nicely to "flying the aircraft" back to our normal boring straight and level status quo. So rather than fix the problem, i.e. Teaching people how to maneuver the a/c at its limits, the bean counters have Scrooged it up, to apply a save-all band-aid fix. Yeah I'm sure shouting out "Attitude roll pitch power " or whatever counter-intuitive bs they are currently spouting is going to save the day when El Capitano leaves spikey haired earring wearing millenials at the controls going through the itcz when one of the un-noticed red/purple cells bites young spikey in the @ss. For the love of (insert deity here), can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"? FFS! |
Originally Posted by Foxdeux
(Post 10179257)
Personally I don't think there's anything to worry about since airplanes practically fly themselves anyways.
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Originally Posted by mngmt mole
(Post 10179190)
In the meantime, enjoy the spectacle of CX losing all it's experienced and qualified crew.
The longer you stay the worse it gets and it's designed that way. |
can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"?
Originally Posted by LongTimeInCX
(Post 10179591)
Rhino driver - Indeed! I find it incredulous that a hammer approach to teaching people how to fly out of an unexpected position, that they probably wouldn't have gotten themselves into if they were initially taught well, is now being mandated. In a previous life, it seemed I spent half the time upside down, or at max angle of attack, as the norm. Strangely, I've found that both model A and model B both respond quite nicely to "flying the aircraft" back to our normal boring straight and level status quo. So rather than fix the problem, i.e. Teaching people how to maneuver the a/c at its limits, the bean counters have Scrooged it up, to apply a save-all band-aid fix. Yeah I'm sure shouting out "Attitude roll pitch power " or whatever counter-intuitive bs they are currently spouting is going to save the day when El Capitano leaves spikey haired earring wearing millenials at the controls going through the itcz when one of the un-noticed red/purple cells bites young spikey in the @ss. For the love of (insert deity here), can we not just teach these people how to actually " fly"? FFS! |
I am sure the unforecast, unprecedented and totally out of our control US/PRC trade war will be the headliner at the interim results announcement in early August! There will always be something to blame..... |
Unfortunately all those nice layers of safety which used to be incorporated into the operation ( maturity, experience, talent, training and confidence) have been slowly eroded away. Now, scratch the surface of a new joiners’ competence and a shocking level of unsuitability may often be exposed. |
Strange... I well remember A Scalers saying exactly the same about the first B Scalers to arrive...:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by raven11
(Post 10179553)
Airplanes that fly themselves... Ha ha, yes, that’s what management (outside the USA) are deluding themselves with....while secretly hoping a real pilot is onboard when things go pear-shaped. Imagine, the first time a passenger finds him/herself upside down in one of these “self flying” airplanes, it will also be the “pilot’s” first time. |
Scratch the Surface
Originally Posted by kenfoggo
(Post 10179778)
Unfortunately all those nice layers of safety which used to be incorporated into the operation ( maturity, experience, talent, training and confidence) have been slowly eroded away. Now, scratch the surface of a new joiners’ competence and a shocking level of unsuitability may often be exposed. Shocking unsuitability is a shockingly understated opinion.. |
Not a problem.... just disengage, push, thrust, stabilize, roll or whatever that procedure they thought they needed to teach me is. |
Originally Posted by Kitsune
(Post 10179823)
Strange... I well remember A Scalers saying exactly the same about the first B Scalers to arrive...:rolleyes: Sorry if that doesn’t fit your eye rolling agenda... |
Originally Posted by Foxdeux
(Post 10180931)
Button pusher with the occasional drastic need to safe lives.
Airlines like Qantus being the exception. |
Originally Posted by spleener
(Post 10181255)
My recollection is a little different. Sure, there was bitching, but not experience levels - I flew with many in the Air Force. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your eye rolling agenda... |
Originally Posted by Kitsune
(Post 10181685)
Unfortunately for you, I retired with my A Scale P Fund many years ago... I have no dog in this fight. Having said that I (once again) well remember a lauded Airforce pilot smashing the aircraft into the ground so hard they came back from base training with the gear down... :rolleyes: But yeah, good and not so good airforce/ civilian. I’ve no axe to grind, but I do have skin in the game. Enjoy your retirement. |
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