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PanZa-Lead 17th May 2018 06:08

This is how it IS going to happen
 
Company hold talks with HKAOA at the start of the summer schedule. Due to bad weather and extra summer holiday sectors added on they need us to work hard. Talks will drag on all summer ‘with progress being made’. Talks will FAIL as the winter schedule starts due good weather and less sectors to fly. Talks will start again just before next summer schedule.
I have seen this happen 29 times

cxorcist 17th May 2018 13:30


Originally Posted by PanZa-Lead (Post 10148988)
Company hold talks with HKAOA at the start of the summer schedule. Due to bad weather and extra summer holiday sectors added on they need us to work hard. Talks will drag on all summer ‘with progress being made’. Talks will FAIL as the winter schedule starts due good weather and less sectors to fly. Talks will start again just before next summer schedule.
I have seen this happen 29 times

Hope it didn’t take 29 iterations to figure that out???

HKAOA might as well just walk in, throw down written demands on the table, and say call us when you are ready to address ALL of these. Until then, CC and TB stay on. Have a nice day!

mngmt mole 17th May 2018 14:02

Amen 👍......

Start Fore 17th May 2018 14:15

Amen indeed :ok:

Shep69 17th May 2018 14:20


Originally Posted by cxorcist (Post 10149354)


Hope it didn’t take 29 iterations to figure that out???

HKAOA might as well just walk in, throw down written demands on the table, and say call us when you are ready to address ALL of these. Until then, CC and TB stay on. Have a nice day!

This is the exactly how to do it and exactly how it must be done. Period.

Arfur Dent 17th May 2018 16:42

"New DFO"??
You mean "Same DFO" but different person. Only Merlin Swire will have the ears of anyone important so until he is alarmed ( the Swires just increased their wealth in the Sunday Times Rich List by hundreds of millions LAST YEAR!!), nobody in Swire HQ could care less about the problems anyone is having with 2 SOs, housing, salary or any other inconsequential nonsense you guys whinge about.
You are like an annoying fly in their offices. They find you tedious and boring and overpaid for what you do.
Get used to it or leave.........

stormfury 18th May 2018 02:44


Originally Posted by PanZa-Lead (Post 10148988)
I have seen this happen 29 times

Exactly! That’s what’s so brilliant about it!


Start Fore 18th May 2018 05:00


Originally Posted by Dan Buster (Post 10149437)
Also, suspend the talks until the new DFO is in. A management tactic. No point talking when the one you are talking to is getting ready to go elsewhere. Too disruptive.


Absolutely

FlexibleResponse 18th May 2018 14:33


Originally Posted by Dan Buster https://www.pprune.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Also, suspend the talks until the new DFO is in. A management tactic. No point talking when the one you are talking to is getting ready to go elsewhere. Too disruptive.

Between DFOs? Perhaps this would be the perfect time to take action?

Rated De 20th May 2018 01:55

Folks,

Timing the cycle is what they do.
An adversarial model relies upon using utmost leverage.
All the points made are examples.

They generally open (if the contract expiry facilitates) on an business cycle upswing, then extend into the top.
They then as the cycle rolls over, delay, let bad news (oil prices, airline collapse or the JFK assassination it matters little) then look for concessions

It is the same template at almost every airline.


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